advice with a 1650

[cub14501650]

Hey Papaglide,I believe I purchased the 1650 you were looking at,mine has the oil leak and it was $275.I bought this to use my snowthrower from my 1450 on it so the leak really didn't bother me since I wouldn't use it that much(Plus it is great for parts).My question is if it is the mounts that are bad why does the oil come out and where would it be comming from on the engine?

[papaglide]

cub14501650 I really don't know. That's why I hesitated so much, I am a novice with the repair on these things. Matt G. is really proficient at fixin these tractors as are some of the other fellas around. I hope that it is a good tractor for you. BTW, where abouts are you located, I'm up a little north of Lockport.

[MBounds]

Cub 1650 & Papaglide...Bad motor mounts can cause the bolts to eat through the threaded holes in the aluminum pan or just wear a hole in the pan from vibration and L - e - a - k !! This is particulparly true on the QLs where the owner has allowed the mounts and Iso-Bars to really deteriorate!! New motor mounts and a replacement pan usually solves it.

Myron B
CCSupplyRoom

[cub14501650]

Papaglide,I am in Amherst(The tractor was in Ransomville)..Like I said I am going to only use it to snowblow,so I won't use it that much and my attachment off my 1450 fits perfectly.Plus the guy gave it to me for $260 so even for parts it was a great deal and the guy I bought it from was really nice.Mbounds,it seems like the leak is comming from the top of the engine,I have read that some Cubs have trouble with the seal around the PTO,I thought this was the case when I first bought it but although I haven't tinkered at all with it yet it looks like the oil is dripping above the PTO(But it could be possibly getting flung up by the rotation of the PTO shaft?

[Matt G.]

It wouldn't be too difficult to take the PTO clutch off and see. You want to fix that oil leak ASAP, as the leaking oil turns the iso-mounts into blobs of soft rubber.

[cub14501650]

OK thanks,but if it isn't the PTO then that would only leave the headgasket possibly leaking then?...But it also seems to leak when the tractor is at rest so I don't know if the oil level would even reach the PTO seal..

[Matt G.]

It's probably not the head gasket. If it's blowing that much oil out of the head gasket, you've got much more serious problems. Plus, it would be coming out of the muffler box, and most likely wouldn't be in the area you're describing. It could also be the governor shaft nut, breather, oil pan, or a number of other things.

[cub14501650]

Well thanks,I will have to pull it apart,I don't think it is the head gasket either,But if I put oil in it and not run it it will leak...So the probably does rule it out..

[cub14501650]

Well,I quickly poked my head under the tractor today(I removed the yellow mower mount) and it looks like oil is dripping from a large yellow plate under the engine.If I can remove the plate(I think it was bolted under the frame) and if it is the oil pan,would it be easy to spot the leak?Also,can I remove the pan without removing the engine?I know I will need to remove the engine to replace the mounts but I would like to see the leak in the mean time.Thanks

[Matt G.]

Nope, the oil pan connects the engine to the tractor. It's easier to replace the mounts by removing the engine, anyway.