Transmission trouble

[zippy1]

Originally Posted by ol'George

We preferred to call them a 265" in the day as metric had not become common in America.
It had no oil filter provision on the block like the later ones in '56-up.

You could punch them out 1/8" and put 283" pistons in that block. and the '57 283's could be punched 1/8" to 301" with aftermarket pistons.
I did several.
In '58 they went to side motor mounts and thin wall casting, so +.060 was all that you could go safely.
moot point now as it was too long ago for most younger fellows.

Those 1 year only 1955 blocks, that we didn't like back in the day, now command a good price because of restorers wanting numbers matching correct parts.

Gm knew the "boys" were coming back from Korea with a lot of saved $$ and wanting something better than a stove bolt 6 or a flathead ford.
so they started a tradition of building affordable speed parts at dam near cost, for the small block equipped sedans and hard tops.
And it worked, you could afford Cams ,dual quads, dual point ignition, any rear gear ratio you wanted all the way to 5:88 on gas station jockey wages, or a grocery bagger.
You could build a 1/4 mile sedan that you shifted @ 7500 rpm and ran the low 14's on a budget.
the rest is history, a wonderful time to grow up.

And that's what is lacking nowadays. "HISTORY".

[J-Mech]

IT WORKS!

Haven't drove it yet. Still on jack stands, but it works. What a frustration. Tomorrow I've got some HVAC work to do to it, and change out a t-stat housing, but it will be on the road again tomorrow.

[RumbleFish]

Originally Posted by J-Mech

Never understood what the goal was in the slant motors. Apparently, whatever it was didn't pan out. That wasn't a design that stuck, lol.

I can only speak for the chysler slant 6, and i would guess the same reasons are true for the scout slant 4, but it was for cost savings. Chrysler developed a v12 for military consideration but it wasnt picked up. When the time came to develop a new inline 6 to replace the flathead they used the engineering they had already paid for and turned that v12 into a slant 6.

I seem to remember some car that had a slant 4 needed it to keep the overall height of the engine shorter so it would fit under the hood. I wanna say it was some older import but Ive slept since then.

[cooperino]

Originally Posted by J-Mech

IT WORKS!

Haven't drove it yet. Still on jack stands, but it works. What a frustration. Tomorrow I've got some HVAC work to do to it, and change out a t-stat housing, but it will be on the road again tomorrow.

That sigh of relief after having gone through one of these ordeals. Know the feeling well! Ya almost feel like break dancin right LOL.
Only one thing to do after that.. have a beer and smile!

Glad ya got her going again.

[ol'George]

Originally Posted by RumbleFish

I can only speak for the chysler slant 6, and i would guess the same reasons are true for the scout slant 4, but it was for cost savings. Chrysler developed a v12 for military consideration but it wasnt picked up. When the time came to develop a new inline 6 to replace the flathead they used the engineering they had already paid for and turned that v12 into a slant 6.

I seem to remember some car that had a slant 4 needed it to keep the overall height of the engine shorter so it would fit under the hood. I wanna say it was some older import but Ive slept since then.

I did not know about the V12 military development.
Typical of Chrysler to keep mil. work silent

IIRR it was Chrysler that needed the hood clearance on Valiant/dart compacts.
Those "lazy six's" were industrial engines,and they were used in combines and hilo's.
As well as many other applications to replace the chrysler industrial 6 flathead.
In the beginning a lot laughed @ the slant six, and said it would never be as good as the flathead but it was,-- and better.
-----------And it could breathe and run silly high Rpm's

One particular saturday evening @ Detroit dragway, I remember a modified slant six in a light willy's coupe shifting @ 10,000 rpm's, unheard of in those days.
The sound of that exhaust was mind boggling.
The Ramcharger boys had done some of their magic on that little six for the
fellow and they would not let anyone under the hood.

Detroit Dragway was unique that way, as you just never knew what what would show up from the back alley garages that the big 3 quietly backed, trying new ideas/combinations.
Remembering DST (Dearborn steel tubing) doing Ford's hypo work.
They built fords altered wheelbase "thunderbolts" but that is a story for another day.

[J-Mech]

Originally Posted by cooperino

That sigh of relief after having gone through one of these ordeals. Know the feeling well! Ya almost feel like break dancin right LOL.
Only one thing to do after that.. have a beer and smile!

Glad ya got her going again.

I'm not sure about the dancing part..... but the relief is amazing. I took me forever to get the money saved up to do this job. I don't make money like I used to. Been without the truck for 9 months. It's nice to get it where it will roll again. Still needs a lot more work done to it, but at least I can drive it again. I had planned to go through the stuff I just went through, but not all at once. I was hoping to do it as I had money, not "oh crap, now I have to fix it". Then it was compounded by the pump failing and me having to pay for yet more parts. I need to go to work, lol. I'm still drinking coffee. That's how I roll. Lazy day after a long day. I wrapped up working on it at like 11:30 last night.

[cooperino]

Originally Posted by J-Mech

I'm not sure about the dancing part..... but the relief is amazing. I took me forever to get the money saved up to do this job. I don't make money like I used to. Been without the truck for 9 months. It's nice to get it where it will roll again. Still needs a lot more work done to it, but at least I can drive it again. I had planned to go through the stuff I just went through, but not all at once. I was hoping to do it as I had money, not "oh crap, now I have to fix it". Then it was compounded by the pump failing and me having to pay for yet more parts. I need to go to work, lol. I'm still drinking coffee. That's how I roll. Lazy day after a long day. I wrapped up working on it at like 11:30 last night.

Well, I am glad your transmission issues are over.. However, Mine are just beginning. Leased a 40,000 pound pushback tractor out about a year ago. Yesterday they called me telling me its making a lot of noise.. Here is what I found when I got there today. Its a 6 speed Funk with transfer case. They must have dropped into reverse while still moving forward judging by the break marks. It broke the ears off of the output shaft not the u-joint. Then the drive shaft spun around and broke the transfer case.. Oh yeah.. here we go! lol

The pictures are taken from laying under and looking up.

[bllwnkl]

Glad to hear your truck works. Can't imagine going through what you went through to get to where you are right now. Hopefully the rest of the fixes will go well.

[bllwnkl]

Originally Posted by cooperino

They must have dropped into reverse while still moving forward judging by the break marks. It broke the ears off of the output shaft not the u-joint. Then the drive shaft spun around and broke the transfer case.. Oh yeah.. here we go! lol

Gee, I don't think they should've done that! What a mess!

[cooperino]

Originally Posted by bllwnkl

Gee, I don't think they should've done that! What a mess!

Most of the people operating GSE at an airport are young kids 18-23. They do not make a whole lot "probably 15 hour" They just don't care.. They ram stuff in gear half throttle, bang into stuff, beat on, etc etc. You would think airlines would want better qualified people making maneuvers with heavy equipment around their multi million dollar aircraft.

the following videos are of TUG inc Brand MA-50 gas tractor, and a Harlan HTAG-50.Both are Ford 300 4.9's They weight about 6500 pounds each. Now I don't know who these guys are but I have seen this and even worse at many airports.

Heres a guy "drifting" on a tug https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jy_iAy0qWlw
Heres a guy doing wheelies https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_7BibChOEo