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Old 08-07-2014, 09:37 PM
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I realize your not suppose to mess with safety switches etc...with that said after working the 1864 it would be nice to let the tractor run for a while to cool off with out me being on the seat . Does any one have a creative way to bypass the seat pressure switch, without getting into the harness.?

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Old 08-07-2014, 09:49 PM
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Wow, I didn't realize it shuts the tractor down. I thought it just killed the pto. My 1864 was bypassed when I got it. I can look at it tomorrow morning to see what the po did.
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I realize your not suppose to mess with safety switches etc...with that said after working the 1864 it would be nice to let the tractor run for a while to cool off with out me being on the seat . Does any one have a creative way to bypass the seat pressure switch, without getting into the harness.?

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Uhhhh...put the break on and you don't have to be in the seat for it to run
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Old 08-07-2014, 09:51 PM
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Wow, I didn't realize it shuts the tractor down. I thought it just killed the pto. My 1864 was bypassed when I got it. I can look at it tomorrow morning to see what the po did.
I've had an 1863, 1864, and now a 2284, all without any known PO wiring screw-e-ness. With all of them, I've been able to set the brake and get off without it dying. I hope that's not just me.
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I realize your not suppose to mess with safety switches etc...with that said after working the 1864 it would be nice to let the tractor run for a while to cool off with out me being on the seat . Does any one have a creative way to bypass the seat pressure switch, without getting into the harness.?

Thanks in advance.
The seat switch on my 1872 is a normally open switch, I'm assuming the 1864 is the same. When I sit on the seat it closes the switch and completes the circuit. Just pull the 2 female blade connectors off the switch and put a jumper wire with male connectors in. That way it's easy to hook the safety back up if someone else drives it.
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I've had an 1863, 1864, and now a 2284, all without any known PO wiring screw-e-ness. With all of them, I've been able to set the brake and get off without it dying. I hope that's not just me.
Nope. That's how they r supposed to work. There are two circuits that have a potential to ground out the mags. The first one is the key switch circuit. The next is the seat switch/ neutral safety switch. The seat switch and neutral switch are in series. The neutral switch is a normally closed switch just like the seat switch.

This being the case, as long as one of the two switches are "open" the engine will not be killed this is done by pressing the clutch and or sitting on the seat
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Old 08-07-2014, 10:22 PM
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I think I may have to remove the seat to see exactly what he did. I'm not sure I want to fix it if it's not broke. All I can see is wires going under the seat base.
I am sure it is completely unsafe, but it's handy to have it creep along while spreading some gravel out of the back of the cart.
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The seat switch on my 1872 is a normally open switch, I'm assuming the 1864 is the same. When I sit on the seat it closes the switch and completes the circuit. Just pull the 2 female blade connectors off the switch and put a jumper wire with male connectors in. That way it's easy to hook the safety back up if someone else drives it.
Not familiar with an 1872, but cyclopses have two switches. The normally open is for the mower deck. The normally closed is the engine kill. If you jump the normally closed switch for the engine, it will die the second you let off the break/ clutch
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Cool I did not realize that if you locked the brake it would stay running... that's an easy fix...Thanks guys.it beats by passing the switch cause it's my daughter's mower tractor.
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Guys, for legal reasons we cannot discuss the removal of any safety features of our tractor on the open forum.

While I'm here, the 1872 is a completely different animal than a 1864. Cyclops series was the first series the brake had to be set to get off the seat.
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