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Old 09-21-2022, 08:47 PM
AaronW AaronW is offline
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Default Need some electrical diagnostic help on 125

Hi all, new member here, just joined the forum a few days ago, since I picked up a Cub 125.

Here's my problem. Hopefully I've got all the relevant details. So the tractor was needing jumped, when I got it. My uncle (he's West Valley Garden, here on the forum) and I put a meter on the battery, and running the tractor was definitely running the battery down. So ok, we've got some kind of charging issue here, so we started cleaning up electrical connections. We took apart, cleaned, and reconnected:

the wires at the battery terminals
the connections on the starter-generator
the connections on the voltage regulator
the three prong plug connection underneath the gauge panel

We then tried to start the tractor, and the starter generator spun, but didn't turn the engine over. Head-scratching ensued. Noticed, while we're at it, that we're getting some smoke out of what we thought was the ground wire to the voltage regulator.

I've tried disconnecting the voltage regulator, no dice. starter still just spins. followed advice at the link here: https://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/showthread.php?t=18, steps 1 and 5.

Step 1 tested ok.
When I tried step 5, I got a whole pile of sparks when I touched jumper to the Gen terminal on the V/R. Nothing at all, when I touched jumper wire to the battery connection on the V/R. (more why I skipped step two, below)

At this point, I'm now getting smoke, not only from what I'm pretty sure is the ground wire on the V/R, but also from the positive terminal on the battery. Not good.

Complicating all this, is that the color coding for the wires to the V/R is missing. The wires all have some kind of coating on them, and scraping that off doesn't uncover any color underneath. So these must not be original wires, I suppose. But in any case, we were careful to mark the wires we pulled off the regulator. Also, am not sure if the V/R is original to the tractor, either.

So we've basically got two (I think) layers of problem to solve here.

1. What was the original problem that was causing the battery drain
2. What would potentially cause the new problem of the engine not turning over and smoking wires, which apparently resulted from us cleaning up connection points and putting everything back together.

I'm stumped, hoping the assembled wisdom here can help us out.

Aaron
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