Project rear pto O

Methos · #1 02-21-2011, 04:50 PM

Well this has been a couple weeks in the making but it's home now so it's time to post pics! I found a pretty good deal on the rear pto now I've got to find the rest of the tractor to build around it. Not sure if you can see from the pics but serial # 2146. The splines on the pto show no signs of wear/use. I'm going to pull the axle tubes and replace the brass bushings and replace the seals then wait until I find the rest of the tractor. Going thru the gears the shift pattern is nice and tight. It's Jude's fault I got this I was having rear pto envy and located this one. Turns out the guy I got it from used to own my replacement loader adn is long time friend of Allen! So pretty small world.

Got a couple of questions...

Anyone happen to know if you have a danco creeper if it slows down the pto when your in low range?

Seems like it would but thought I would ask.

Will a snow thrower drive shaft fit the pto shaft? I've got a couple of projects in mind but need to know the size of the pto shaft.

#2 02-21-2011, 06:29 PM

Awesome

That rearend, not yours, looks mighty fine

. Nice early serial # too! Not sure if snowthrower driveshaft fits but came across this: http://ihccw.com/IMG_8656_11.JPG. Saw that on ihccw.com and it's a REAR PTO INTERMEDIATE SHAFT SPLINE COUPLING ASSEMBLY!! I'm thinking that would work, man I'm getting hungry for some reason

Nice score Duke, I'm sure we can find you the rest of the tractor when I come down

Matt G. · #3 02-21-2011, 06:36 PM

Yes, the creeper will slow the PTO...the creeper connects to the input of the trans, so everything is slowed down by it.

The shaft in Sminkey's picture is probably for an SGT with the electric rear PTO...the spline is different. It's possible that the snowthrower joint has the same spline, but unlikely. You may want/need to get a spline adapter to get the size up to a 1 3/8" - 6 spline or something more common like that.

#4 02-21-2011, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt G.

Yes, the creeper will slow the PTO...the creeper connects to the input of the trans, so everything is slowed down by it.

The shaft in Sminkey's picture is probably for an SGT with the electric rear PTO...the spline is different. It's possible that the snowthrower joint has the same spline, but unlikely. You may want/need to get a spline adapter to get the size up to a 1 3/8" - 6 spline or something more common like that.

ya you're right Matt, that shaft has pretty fine splines. Wouldn't work, a spline adapter sounds like a good idea!!

Methos · #5 02-21-2011, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Sminkey

Awesome

That rearend, not yours, looks mighty fine

. Nice early serial # too! Not sure if snowthrower driveshaft fits but came across this: http://ihccw.com/IMG_8656_11.JPG. Saw that on ihccw.com and it's a REAR PTO INTERMEDIATE SHAFT SPLINE COUPLING ASSEMBLY!! I'm thinking that would work, man I'm getting hungry for some reason

Nice score Duke, I'm sure we can find you the rest of the tractor when I come down

to the first part!

I'm sure we'll stumble opon something when you come down.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt G.

Yes, the creeper will slow the PTO...the creeper connects to the input of the trans, so everything is slowed down by it.

The shaft in Sminkey's picture is probably for an SGT with the electric rear PTO...the spline is different. It's possible that the snowthrower joint has the same spline, but unlikely. You may want/need to get a spline adapter to get the size up to a 1 3/8" - 6 spline or something more common like that.

Thanks Matt that was my thoughts as well on creeper slowing the pto down. It just kinda made sense but when I asked people they didn't think it would for some reason.

I'll check around for a spline adaptor.

Thanks for the help!

#6 02-21-2011, 07:21 PM

Hey Duke. you may want to check out a PTO knuckle and shaft from a Bolens tube frame to run their attachments....the splines look awfully similar to that of your cub...who knows...maybe youll get lucky with that! good find on the very low SN original...(part of an original) haha

Methos · #7 02-21-2011, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by nickvanorman

Hey Duke. you may want to check out a PTO knuckle and shaft from a Bolens tube frame to run their attachments....the splines look awfully similar to that of your cub...who knows...maybe youll get lucky with that! good find on the very low SN original...(part of an original) haha

Thanks Nick I've got a friend with some bolens I'll check with him. The low serial number plus the pto made me buy it and build a tractor around it. Even if I tried to talk my self out of it several times but hey it's all Jude's fualt!

There is no rush on this project just going to see how the parts fall in line for me and see where it goes from there. Once I rebuild the rear end I'll put it on the shelf and wait on the rest. Unless Jude makes me speed the project up!

Methos · #8 01-17-2012, 06:09 PM

Some updates to this old thread.

I pulled the NOS K181 engine from the 71 to put into the O. I've got to switch oil pans still but will get to that this week. Once I thin out the herd I'll start assembly of the O.

When I took the gas tank off I saw yellow paint! The motor doesn't look like it's been repainted. I pulled the head off to check and see if the motor had been rebuilt. The laste pic with a red circle shows it stamped STD. (hard to see but it's ther) So huge relief there. Not sure why there is yellow on the tins tho. Maybe the tins had been replaced before?

As you can see there is some carbon build up and I'll check the head for flatness and put a new head gasket on it.

On to the pics!

ACecil · #9 01-17-2012, 09:59 PM

Thanks for the update, and pics, buddy!

IACubCadet · #10 01-17-2012, 11:41 PM

Sounds like one heck of a project you got going on there! Originals are a fun tractor to work on. Im in the process of peicing an original together as well. Its a fun way to learn how stuff works and how it all fits together.

I might have posted this, but heres a pic of my "beautiful Original" project tractor: