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05-17-2021, 05:40 PM
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Papa's Original
Greetings everyone,
So here is an update. I still want to get Papa's Original (9539) running. Mr, Houtz is the only shop to ever work on it. Last time I was at his shop he told me it needed a short block and it wasn't worth fixing. He has retired (well earned) as have I. So now I have time to work on the machine. I am a retired Paramedic (20 years) and Retired Emergency Management Agency Chief (38 years). I am not a gearhead. So after calling around I found a new shortblock for the K-161. It had just been installed on a CC-71. I got the entire (running) machine for less then $300.00. I have been using it around the property until I have time to start taking both machines apart and get my CC-O running. Spark plug flew out of the CC-71 last week, had a coil insert on it. Bought new insert and plug, blue locktight and back together. started right up 24 hours later and ran for 5-10 minutes before the plug and coil insert flew out. More blue locktight, re-assemble, 24 hours wait, ran 5 minutes, flew out again. So, re-assemble with red locktight, wait 24 hours, flew out in 5 minutes. So I think it is time to do the tear down of both K-161's and get the original running. Any suggestions for a guy willing to try to do something he knows nothing about? Thanks from Northern Illinois. 
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05-17-2021, 08:22 PM
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Welcome!
Well, you can get another head for the one with the wallered out spark plug hole without a great deal of money. Without question, I'd get the manual for the Original and look in the engine section. Kohler was really good at documenting their procedures and you can get a look at what you're up to by reading the manual (found in the reference section of the forum). By all means, any Original is worth rebuilding. If you do so, it'll likely outlast you and I! John
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05-18-2021, 11:40 AM
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These old tractors are great for new gearheads to learn on. Welcome!
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05-18-2021, 02:40 PM
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Imnaykid,
Welcome to the cub club , what part of the state are you in? I am in Rockford/Loves Park. It's nice to know where a person can look for help if needed Steelsmith
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05-18-2021, 04:01 PM
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Thank you.
Swapping the heads would get the CC-71 running. But the goal is getting the CC-O operating. Mr. Houtz removed the head from the CC-O and found the valves move and the piston does not. He stopped at that point and told me to come and get it, it was not worth repairing. Mr. Helm, the CC dealer in Elgin said the same thing. I will look at the manuals and see what I should be doing. I am 40 miles straight west of Chicago, just east of Elburn where Mr. Houtz was located.
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05-18-2021, 04:58 PM
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Sounds like a broken connecting rod
 Not uncommon on these engines, and more often than not doesn't condemn the whole engine. Time to take 'er apart (slowly, and with many pictures and ziplock bags/labels/etc.) and see what you find.
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