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12-30-2016, 11:58 AM
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Rim Guard/ Beet Juice question - not recommended by local dealer
Hey Folks, I haven't posted in a while. On my recently inherited 1450 I found a snowplow. I remember my dad mentioning before he never used it because the wheels would just spin... well- turns out I don't think he ever used chains + wheel weights. It hasn't snowed yet in the mid-atlantic yet but I want to try using the tractor this year. I plan on getting Terra Grips to plow/throw my mother's newly paved asphalt driveway.
So upon my research I thought about Rim Guard/Beet Juice which seemed like a great option, as I could add even more weight later if need be. I found the local dealer (carries New Holland, not IH or CC) carries/installs it, so I called asking about pricing, timing etc- service advisor asked what it was going into- after telling him what I had he did not recommend putting in Rim Guard to ballast the rear tires on an older garden tractor as it puts additional strain on the drivetrain. Instead, he recommended something removable like a weight box (mine does not have a 3 point hitch) or the traditional iron wheel weights - so I can remove it during the spring when I put the mower deck back on. He does have a point about it being removable but I've always thought of these IH Tractors to be tough and easily capable of handling ballasted tires year round. Either way, he is willing to put in the Beet Juice but I'm now reconsidering putting it in at all and sticking with the traditional iron weights. Thoughts? 
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12-30-2016, 12:07 PM
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He has probably never had any experience with an older garden tractor.. especially an IH built one.. Those rear ends are near bullet proof. We have a 1450 that has run ballasted 10.50 ag tires and weights since 1976. The tractor has been worked hard all it's life.. heavy gardening and mowing... the rear axle has never given any trouble. I'd rather have the weight on the tires and wheels only.. if you hang the weight on the back you are also stressing the axles and bearings..
His reasoning doesn't make much sense to me... Ballast those tires all you want and don't worry about it!!  A modern box store lawnmower with an aluminum transaxle... I wouldn't even think about weight or ballast! 
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12-30-2016, 12:17 PM
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12-30-2016, 12:41 PM
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That's what I thought. Ironically the competing local dealer (where my dad originally bought the tractor from) now carries Kubota but does not do the beet juice. This tractor has lead an easy life (aside from my driving it into a brick wall when I was younger).. only used to mow a flat 2 acre yard. It sat in a garage for 15 some years now mows my 1/4 acre yard. Eventually, I want to put in a patio and garden in my back yard, so that will be the first time it actually works with dirt, another reason for the wheel weights.
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12-30-2016, 01:04 PM
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Shame on the dealer! I believe it's best for the tractor to have the weight in the tires - to - the ground whether it be liquid or rim weights. Then, if needed, a "counter" weight on the rear of the tractor. I'm still shocked the dealer voiced his opinion on such a simple, time proven subject rather making a sale for the store. What a bunch of dope supporting bull!
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12-30-2016, 01:16 PM
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I ordered a set of Tru Powers for my 2182 yesterday and our tire dealer is going to mount and fill when with rim guard for me today.
Pound for pound a dealer can make a lot more money selling cast iron weight than rim guard, it's going to cost me $32.50 for 10 gallons of rime guard and 110lbs of cast iron would be several times that much.
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