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Old 12-18-2013, 11:24 AM
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Hey guys, hopefully you can give me some insight as to what may be going on. I'm pretty new to tractors/snow blowers/throwers/etc and this was my first full attempt at doing my driveway.

Preface, my 105 ran great all summer mowing my yard for hours at a time and I keep it garaged in the winter.

I was very gloriously throwing snow all over the place last night for about 1.5-2 hours with my cc105 and cc36 snowthrower. Feel free to critique my process as I have no idea if im "doing it right"

I'd throw a line of of the white stuff, disengage my auger, lift thrower, bring my throttle down a bit, never less than half, reverse, drop thrower, WOT, engage auger, do another line.

After maybe an hour an a half i noticed my auger was not disengaging. Foolishly I kept cleaning snow, and it backfired maybe twice in the next 20 minutes and started bogging. I turned it off and finished with a shovel.

I was able to adjust the pto clutch to get it to disengage but I'm wondering what happened?

It is VERY possible the belt is too tight as I struggle with the idea of "tighten it until slack is out of the belt, then tighten it 3-3.5 more turns." The belt is rubber, it always feels like there is slack! Ever since I installed the thrower, somethings chirps a bit on startup of the engine. maybe the clutch was already slipping a bit into engagement. it just seems weird I would have to adjust it all of a sudden.


Would an overly tight belt be overworking the engine?

The front end of the 105 was covered in snow and ice and things started working very slowly like when starting the tractor back up, the brake safety switch would take about 5 seconds to realize it was engaged to start. Maybe some vital part was iced up causing overheating or moisture was getting into my engine? Air filter was on pretty tight though. Maybe a frozen throttle cable or something?

Sorry for the novel, thanks!
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Old 12-18-2013, 11:51 AM
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I am by no means an expert with the Cub snow blowers but I would guess you may have sucked some snow into the air filter. I think I would keep it wide open the whole time you are using it rather than backing off. I also would not disengage the clutch just to back up. They way I look at it every time you engage it you are wearing it out. Sounds like you had it pretty well iced up. I'm sure others with more knowledge than me will chime in.
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I agree on what Sam said, keep the pto on .Chirping sound may be a blown headgasket.
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Old 12-18-2013, 12:38 PM
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thanks for the replies guys. I'm going to double check the filter housing, adjust the pto clutch to manual spec, make sure my drive sheave is aligned properly, recheck belt tension and give it another go. Still a whole other half of a driveway/garage bay to clear out!
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I agree on what Sam said, keep the pto on .Chirping sound may be a blown headgasket.
I don't think The chirping is a blown headgasket. I just replaced the one of my 1450 and it still chirps on start up. I think it has something to do with the Thrower.
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I don't think The chirping is a blown headgasket. I just replaced the one of my 1450 and it still chirps on start up. I think it has something to do with the Thrower.
I'm oddly interested in this, too, as my 129 (with a 14hp transplant) occasionally chirps on start-up too. Hmm...
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Must be little birdie then.
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Backfiring thru muffler might mean your running rich and/or need a valve job especially on the exhaust valve.
Running it hard for a period of time gets the muffler really good and hot.
Along with too much unburnt fuel and kaboom.

Mine does it almost everytime I shutdown after mowing the yard.
Not even at full throttle, maybe 3/4ths to 7/8ths.

I hope yours is not backfiring out the carb.
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I'd throw a line of of the white stuff, disengage my auger, lift thrower, bring my throttle down a bit, never less than half, reverse, drop thrower, WOT, engage auger, do another line.
Leave the blower running all the time. When moving the components warm up, melt ice and snow. When it's cold the water will freeze, them make them hard to start up again. Just leave it on. NEVER engage the PTO at WOT. Ever. It's hard on everything. Engage it at the lowest possible throttle setting that doesn't stall the engine.

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After maybe an hour an a half i noticed my auger was not disengaging. Foolishly I kept cleaning snow, and it backfired maybe twice in the next 20 minutes and started bogging. I turned it off and finished with a shovel.

I was able to adjust the pto clutch to get it to disengage but I'm wondering what happened?
As far as backfiring, I'm with Sam. Possibly water into the intake, water in fuel, or a motor that just needs tuned up. I have never found any attachment that works a motor harder than a snowblower. If the motor needs attention, it will show up when blowing snow.

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It just seems weird I would have to adjust it all of a sudden.
You probably just wore the clutch a little starting and stopping it so much.

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Would an overly tight belt be overworking the engine?
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The front end of the 105 was covered in snow and ice and things started working very slowly like when starting the tractor back up, the brake safety switch would take about 5 seconds to realize it was engaged to start. Maybe some vital part was iced up causing overheating or moisture was getting into my engine? Air filter was on pretty tight though. Maybe a frozen throttle cable or something?
It is possible that things were freezing. Like mentioned, tune up the motor, maybe drain and refill the fuel tank and bowl on the carb. Don't give up!
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I agree; with any PTO implement its best to engage at low throttle then increase. Just may as well leave it on as you are using it; it'd be like shutting a mower deck off just to back up when mowing.
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