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Old 11-07-2013, 04:37 PM
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Default Electric PTO switch on 1650

I put the the 36 inch snow thrower on today and noticed the PTO works only intermittently.

If the PTO switch is on, the tractor will not start, so I know that part of the puzzle is still correct.

Why does it shut off when running and now not start. I need help on.

Thanks!
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Old 11-07-2013, 04:47 PM
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My 1450 has the same problem. I'm going to watch this thread if you don't mind.
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Old 11-07-2013, 04:53 PM
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Most of the PTO control switches had 2 sets of contacts/circuits.

One was the safety interlock to prevent starting with PTO on, the other circuit was to provide power to the PTO. I have to "jiggle" my 800's switch to start the engine
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Old 11-07-2013, 04:54 PM
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I don't know the reason for this problem to happen, What I do know is that I
had a similar problem with my 1250 Nightmare, and replacing the PTO switch corrected the problem.

With the bad switch in place, sometimes I had to close and open the switch (turn it on and off) a couple of times to get the starter circuit to close. Finally, I had enough, and replaced the switch to do something. The problem appears to be fixed.
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Old 11-07-2013, 06:22 PM
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I've also seen too low battery volts not be able to pull in PTO. I've had to jump start some off, the charging system will run the tractor but not enough juice to run tractor and pull in PTO. But the PTO switch may end up being your culprit, do you have a meter or test light?
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I do have them Alvy, thanks for the ideas!

The starter turned over a bit slow, tractor has not been run in awhile

I will charge battery tomorrow and report back
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Old 11-08-2013, 11:40 AM
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I've also seen too low battery volts not be able to pull in PTO. I've had to jump start some off, the charging system will run the tractor but not enough juice to run tractor and pull in PTO. But the PTO switch may end up being your culprit, do you have a meter or test light?
Hi Alvy, I tried charging the battery, didn't help.

1) Using the meter to check the switch, what wires should I hook to and look for how many ohms to see if the switch is bad?

2) Also, is this the part number for the switch (CUB CADET 725-3022, 925-3022, 1073 Electric PTO Switch)

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Old 11-29-2013, 03:36 PM
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Got the switch off the tractor. What terminals are "a" and "b" to test the ohms?

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Your switch is bad. I had the same problem with my 1450. I took the switch apart and cleaned the contacts and it has worked good for the last three years.
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Put the the 36 inch snow thrower on today and noticed the PTO works only intermittently.

If the PTO switch is on, the tractor will not start so I know that part of the puzzle is still correct.

Why it shut off when running and now not start I need help on

Thanks!
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Old 12-20-2013, 07:10 PM
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Thanks Roland for the chart. Please HELP!

received new switch, put it in, and still nothing for PTO working, WE have alot of snow on ground and predicted 16 more inches this weekend!

I may have now an extra "good" switch i will mail to who can help me get my 1650 pto working



My 1650 has to plastic housing terminals that plug into the pto switch. one has 3 terminals so it can't be plugged in wrong (although it has only 2 wires in it. I believe the A terminal on Rolands chart is empty from a wire, maybe it' s the "E" terminal I have to look again in daylight out there)

I have the other plastic plug with 2 wires( orange and red) the red goes into the "u" terminal in my pic. No pto working when I activate switch back and forth with tractor running. Tried flipping the red and orange terminal and still nothing. this is frustrating for sure!

Please help!
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