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Old 04-06-2013, 08:18 PM
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Default Model 70 Starter Generator dying

Hey there,

My S/G has been having trouble starting my tractor for about a year now and now will not turn it over. The battery is good and there is plenty of power to the S/G.

Is this a matter of brushes wearing out? The S/G has never been rebuilt since 1964.

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Old 04-06-2013, 08:36 PM
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I have worked on several S/G's (on my 100 and my 124) over the last two years. I would suggest either buy a brand new one off ebay, or take your existing S/G to a generator shop and have them repair it. There is just so much that can be wrong, such as brushes, bearings, armature, field coils, that it will save you time and money to have it replaced or repaired. Just my .02.
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Old 04-06-2013, 08:37 PM
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Brushes are a possibility of a s/g slowing down. Bearings could be another issue. There are not many parts inside and there are kits to fix them. The biggest problem is keeping the brushes back far enough to get it back together.
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Old 04-06-2013, 10:15 PM
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I heard that it's better to rebuild than to buy a new one as the new ones are not like the originals. Anyone know of a good shop in Indianapolis that can repair it?
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Old 04-07-2013, 07:22 AM
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Your situation sounds like (A) You have a lack of power going to the S/G through bad battery cables and/or connections, or (B) that there is an issue with the S/G itself.

Personally, I am an advocate of getting the original S/G rebuilt. I have read some, not so good stories, about these $100.00 cheapies from China.
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Old 04-07-2013, 07:43 AM
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I'd recommend finding someone near you with a good working used one to try to be sure it fixes your problem. Be careful when loosen/tightening the nuts on the cables, grind a wrench thin enough to fit under the cable on the bottom nut to make sure the post doesn't try to turn. If it turns it will usually crack the insulators on the studs.
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Old 04-09-2013, 06:54 PM
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I did some checking and when I press the starter button I only get about 8 volts to the s/g, but the battery reads 11.9 volts. Could something else be messed up?
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Old 04-10-2013, 02:07 PM
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I heard that it's better to rebuild than to buy a new one as the new ones are not like the originals. Anyone know of a good shop in Indianapolis that can repair it?
If you do end up going the rebuilt route, my Starter/Generator had a label on it from Mooresville Alternator on it. I'm guessing they rebuilt my s/g at one point.

If you find someone else, and you're happy with their service, please let me know!
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Mark is right....here is a simple diagram

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Well, the s/g won't turn even being directly hooked up to a battery.

Looks like rebuild is in my future. Not too bad for never having been worked on in nearly 50 years. Found a place near downtown Indy that can do it.
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