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Old 01-16-2013, 05:45 PM
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Default Cub Cadet 127 hard starting

my problem is when every i am starting a cold engine esphly in the cold weather it is very hard to start ive run sea foam in it it didnt seem to help any advice is welcome
heres a vid of what it dose http://youtu.be/Ce6sgtEhcOo
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Old 01-16-2013, 05:59 PM
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Two things come to mind: points need gaping and/or ACR not releasing at low rpm.

1st thing, try setting your points to .20 inches at maximum opening. The engine sounds like the spark is firing the mixture way before TDC. That may be what is stopping the piston in its tracks. Pull the plug wire the next and see if it turns over OK without stopping it. If it turns over OK, then it may be your Automatic Compression Release not opening the exhaust valve a little until the engine gets to about 650 rpm or so. This would mean your exhaust valve is set to close without the ACR being able to keep it open until engine speed gets to 650 rpm.

When the engine reaches 650 rpm, the ACR cuts off and the valves close normally. It sounds OK when it runs.
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Can someone post some pics or give a real good explanation of the compression release???
My 127 still wont start.
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Try this link. It is from the OCC technical manuals.

http://www.kohlerengines.com/onlinec...df/tp_2379.pdf
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Old 01-16-2013, 08:38 PM
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once the motor starts it runs strong and will start right up but not with out the coke on and runs fine inless i hit a big bump then i have to run the choke for a wile witch is strang
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I would try cleaning and resetting the carb maybe put a float kit in. I had a buddy with a 127 that was a pain to start and it helped to put a space heater pointing on Tue rearend for awhile to get the.fluid warmed up. Ended up finding out the headgasket was blown as well so after the carb rebuild/clean new headgasket and heat on the rear it fires up as good as my 123 now almost effortless
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