Why won't it turn over???

So I hooked up a battery to my new 147 to see what was going on. The lights worked no problem, but they killed the battery pretty quick. The safety switch on the rockshaft is wired into a loop cause the armature broke off, I'm assuming this is ok to do therefore bypassing the switch? So I put some charge on battery and turned key and nothing, nothing on the electric lift either. Does there have to be ample battery power to make these work? If it's not my older battery then I'm not sure where to begin. The ignition switch feels real good and the electric lift switch also.

[Cub Cadet 123]

Jude,

My battery on my 149 will power the lights fine, but not turn it over unless it has a strong charge on it. Try putting a stronger charge on it or change to a fresher battery if you have one handy and see what's going on. Also, if it has been sitting for a while, I put just a small capfull of carb & fuel injector cleaner or HEET in the tank and it cleans up the bad gas deposits out of the carb and helps it fire a little easier---but DO NOT PUT MORE THAN A CAP OR TWO IN AT LEAST A HALF FULL TANK.

Cub Cadet 123

Originally Posted by Cub Cadet 123

Jude,

My battery on my 149 will power the lights fine, but not turn it over unless it has a strong charge on it. Try putting a stronger charge on it or change to a fresher battery if you have one handy and see what's going on. Also, if it has been sitting for a while, I put just a small capfull of carb & fuel injector cleaner or HEET in the tank and it cleans up the bad gas deposits out of the carb and helps it fire a little easier---but DO NOT PUT MORE THAN A CAP OR TWO IN AT LEAST A HALF FULL TANK.

Cub Cadet 123

Thanks, I have a couple other battery's that are ok, will hook one up after dinner. I think the battery I was using is spent and won't hold a charge anymore. The tank was spotless fortunately, the carb on the other hand was all resin'd up, but is clean now. Thanks for the tip though

[Matt G.]

Has that tractor been sitting outside a lot? The 1x6/7 series is notorious for wiring deterioration. I would seriously consider replacing the wiring before you go too much further. It sounds like you may have some broken wires and short circuits going on in there.

[MrGitrdone41]

Did u hear a click when u hit the key? It might be the seloid?

[TEET]

Originally Posted by Matt G.

Has that tractor been sitting outside a lot? The 1x6/7 series is notorious for wiring deterioration. I would seriously consider replacing the wiring before you go too much further. It sounds like you may have some broken wires and short circuits going on in there.

I agree with Matt's statement...

You didn't say if you cleaned all the ground connections, cleaned the points, plug, traced and inspected all wiring, the lugs on the solenoid, spade connectors, v/r connections, s/g connections, etc.

I would start with a fresh battery after everything is clean and inspected, then you can trace for problems if it doesn't turn over....Shouldnt be too tough

Have fun!

Jeff (teet)

Ok, I did a look over of all the wiring and it's in pretty good condition. Pretty sure this tractor was kept indoors most of its life. I got it to turn over now and the electric lift works well too:biggrin2.gif:. Weak battery was my problem, but being the novice I am I put the float back in the carb upside down and when I went to try to start it gas was puking out the carb so I stopped and took it apart and saw right away what I did. So it flooded the engine a little, took the spark plug out and while carb was still off I turned engine over to blow out what it could. Decided to check for spark at the plug and there wasn't any, switched out coil and still no spark, new plug still no spark. Put on a coil I know is good and condensor and still no spark. Any suggestions?? Thanks guys for all your help

[TEET]

Could be timing or points....clean up the points set the gap and check for spark again.

Your making progress....


In case you've not been fortunate enough to view Matt's static timing procedure...enjoy http://mgonitzke.net16.net/tools/static_timing.pdf

Jeff (teet)

Originally Posted by TEET

Could be timing or points....clean up the points set the gap and check for spark again.

Your making progress....

Jeff (teet)

Thanks Jeff! I was thinking points would be the next stop, can't see why the timing would be out? What would make the timing go out?? I'll check the points tomorrow night after teaching some kids to snowboard

thanks for the tip on the static timing, I did see that before but it's good to have it again, thanks!!

[TEET]

Originally Posted by Sminkey

Thanks Jeff! I was thinking points would be the next stop, can't see why the timing would be out? What would make the timing go out?? I'll check the points tomorrow night after teaching some kids to snowboard

thanks for the tip on the static timing, I did see that before but it's good to have it again, thanks!!

I'm no expert, but I think normal wear and tear with the points especially, can create a timing issue, then the points dont usually get adjusted correctly leading to more timing issues. Ive used Matt's static timing method I linked above, and its easy, quick, and gets you in the ballpark to make fine adjustments as needed...good luck, and have fun on the slope

Jeff (teet)