New to me 682

[gadgetman]

Just picked up a 682 last night. Its in rough shape, looks like primarily from sitting. Hour meter shows appx 210 hours. Serial # ends 683230 so it looks to be a nov/dec 1980 build, and therefore belongs in this forum, correct?





My question is, the engine appears "stuck", however, I'd consider the hours low, so I'm speculating...... are the tolerances of the electric PTO close enough that a unit that has sat for many years, can they corrode to the point of stopping the engine from being turned?

Not sure what the plan is for this yet, that will be better determined once it runs... or not.

And yes, it was cheap!

I see now also that the 147 and snowthrower is getting some camera time as well!

Looks like she is in solid condition though. I'm not enough of an expert yet to comment on your engine sieze but I'm on the verge on getting a 147 too! They only made 15,678 of them, what thrower are you running on it?

[BCDSFCRET]

Sir the sheet metal looks good. As far as the engine sized up reach in and try to move the drive shaft. Never go by the engine hour meter unless you bought it new.
If you think the pto clutch is frozen. loosen it or remove it.
Where in Minnesota did you find it?




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[gadgetman]

Originally Posted by Sminkey

Looks like she is in solid condition though. I'm not enough of an expert yet to comment on your engine sieze but I'm on the verge on getting a 147 too! They only made 15,678 of them, what thrower are you running on it?

The 147 was a great find, nice clean unit that has mowed easily for 2 years and now has a qa42a awaiting its first real test this weekend, and then the "snow ready" pics will be available. When I started looking, I REALLY wanted a red one, now I don't know if I can give up the 147.....

[gadgetman]

Originally Posted by BCDSFCRET

Sir the sheet metal looks good. As far as the engine sized up reach in and try to move the drive shaft. Never go by the engine hour meter unless you bought it new.
If you think the pto clutch is frozen. loosen it or remove it.
Where in Minnesota did you find it?




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Sheetmetal, all but the side panels that were missing, looks real nice. With the dried dirt in places, it appears is was left in a dark corner somewhere, that got wet every now and again, and forgotten about.

Um... I "found it" at my local hardware store... it came in for service, was deemed to much $$$ to fix and left to become an eyesore... and I mentioned to the right person that I'd like to aquire it... and yesterday a deal was made.

Unfortunately, the mule drive for deck has been lost, it has the drive for the tiller, but no tiller either.

I'm in eagan, you?

And, yes, the tranny does move as I flex the driveshaft, but the wrench on the PTO end bolt doesn't result in movement.... and the PTO is so rusty, hard to tell where each part ends or begins.... that will come off next.

[TEET]

Originally Posted by gadgetman

Just picked up a 682 last night. Its in rough shape, looks like primarily from sitting. Hour meter shows appx 210 hours. Serial # ends 683230 so it looks to be a nov/dec 1980 build, and therefore belongs in this forum, correct?

My question is, the engine appears "stuck", however, I'd consider the hours low, so I'm speculating...... are the tolerances of the electric PTO close enough that a unit that has sat for many years, can they corrode to the point of stopping the engine from being turned?

Not sure what the plan is for this yet, that will be better determined once it runs... or not.

And yes, it was cheap!

I see now also that the 147 and snowthrower is getting some camera time as well!

Congrats...I picked up a 682 a while back with a fragged engine, dropped in a K301 from a 1250 and she's a beast again :biggrin2.gif:

I've seen where pto's can freeze and cause the engine to be hard to turn. I would disconnect the driveshaft as well at the rag joint to ease movement of the crank if possible. Before you do anything take out the plugs and pour some oil in the holes to soak the cylinders and pistons/rings...let it sit for a bit, and try turning her over by hand. It's possible its stuck from sitting, but its also possible that it has a broken rod, etc. With that serial number and build date, it is most likely a series 1 KT-17 which are known to have issues. The hour meter can be deceiving too...Ive seen some where folks have unplugged it, or snipped a wire..presto..instant low hour machine.

Jeff (teet)

[gadgetman]

Originally Posted by TEET

Congrats...I picked up a 682 a while back with a fragged engine, dropped in a K301 from a 1250 and she's a beast again :biggrin2.gif:

I've seen where pto's can freeze and cause the engine to be hard to turn. I would disconnect the driveshaft as well at the rag joint to ease movement of the crank if possible. Before you do anything take out the plugs and pour some oil in the holes to soak the cylinders and pistons/rings...let it sit for a bit, and try turning her over by hand. It's possible its stuck from sitting, but its also possible that it has a broken rod, etc. With that serial number and build date, it is most likely a series 1 KT-17 which are known to have issues. The hour meter can be deceiving too...Ive seen some where folks have unplugged it, or snipped a wire..presto..instant low hour machine.

Jeff (teet)

Already dropped some oil in the cylinders, inspected the hour meter, it is still hooked up. The drive shaft is loosened, but ran out of time to disco completely. Took some tins off to 'find' the engine, and the heads came off as well (My wife says I don't know when to stop) thought I'd find rusty walls, but I found some oil and nice cylinders. That got me thinking PTO.

I realize the KT17 weaknesses, but I need to determine if it will run and then if the hydro works before I spend more than a dime on it.

May turn out to be a good collection of parts, hope not, but it may.

[Matt G.]

Keep in mind that the 'clock' style hourmeters roll over at like 600-something hours, so it could have any multiple of that plus 210 hours. Even if the engine is messed up, it's worth finding a suitable replacement. The 82 series tractors are great.

[ACecil]

Congrats on your 682!

[BCDSFCRET]

Originally Posted by gadgetman

Sheetmetal, all but the side panels that were missing, looks real nice. With the dried dirt in places, it appears is was left in a dark corner somewhere, that got wet every now and again, and forgotten about.

Um... I "found it" at my local hardware store... it came in for service, was deemed to much $$$ to fix and left to become an eyesore... and I mentioned to the right person that I'd like to aquire it... and yesterday a deal was made.

Unfortunately, the mule drive for deck has been lost, it has the drive for the tiller, but no tiller either.

I'm in eagan, you?

And, yes, the tranny does move as I flex the driveshaft, but the wrench on the PTO end bolt doesn't result in movement.... and the PTO is so rusty, hard to tell where each part ends or begins.... that will come off next.

Buffalo MN.