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Old 01-11-2025, 12:38 PM
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Default Creeper Install and Clutch work

Now that it is white and cold around here it is time to get going on the
creeper gear project on the 124. I use it primarily to mow down the big
nasty stuff around here and the goal is to slow the tractor down while
I do that.
I got the engine pulled yesterday and started on splitting
the tractor when I noticed that my punches around here are woefully
poor for a job like this. The good news is I get to buy some new punches.
Can you folks help me out with understanding the different kinds of
pins and why they use certain pins in one way or another?
Are these pins in the shaft called Coil Pins, Roll Pins, or something else?
Do these pins have a specific side that they should be driven from?

Suggestions on a specific kind of punches would be great.

Hope you all are doing OK and thanks for the help.

Ken
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Old 01-11-2025, 01:48 PM
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Some information.....
https://www.spirol.com/assets/files/...ication-us.pdf
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Old 01-11-2025, 08:02 PM
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Google spirol pin punch, you need a 1/4"
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Old 01-11-2025, 11:03 PM
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Thanks for the info guys. That is really good read on the different
kinds of pins. Sure a bunch of pins in a project like this. Who knew?

Will look up the spirol punch and see where we go,

Ken
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Old 01-12-2025, 09:26 AM
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If the existing pins are really rusted in, getting them out can be a real PITA.
An air hammer using the pointed tip can make it a whole lot easier.....
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Old 01-12-2025, 10:23 AM
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Good reminder on the Air Hammer. I actually have one of those.

Right now I am stuck trying to get the one out of the rear of the
drive shaft so I can roll the rear end out. I would guess you all
will know the one I mean. Yup the one under the tunnel cover.

Ken
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Old 01-12-2025, 12:04 PM
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It might be easiest to just remove the rear axle from the tractor.
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Old 01-12-2025, 01:52 PM
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I was trying to disconnect the drive shaft from the tranny to pull the
rear end. Are you saying it is better to disassemble the clutch assembly
and pull the rear end with drive line attached?
Looks like that is what I will do. Unless I am missing something which
wouldn't surprise me.


Ken
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Old 01-12-2025, 07:41 PM
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Here is a link about using the proper pin punch to drive the spirol pins. It doesn't suggest using roll pin punch which doesn't have a flat end. I just thought this info would be helpful.

https://acrobat.adobe.com/id/urn:aai...8-7a3e74908ec4
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Old 01-13-2025, 09:55 AM
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I did go ahead and pull the clutch apart and split the tractor
with driveline attached at the rear end.
First one of these gear driven ones I have had apart and pulling
the clutch kinda wigged me out. I expected it to fly apart and hurt
me or worse but I lived to keep going.
Start working on getting it cleaned up in the next few days while
waiting for parts. It is amazingly clean although it doesn't really
look it in the pics. I will go ahead and put new gaskets and seals
in it while it is on the bench. Have a good day all.

Ken

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