124 PTO

68ihcc · #1 08-23-2019, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by cooperino

Yes. Pulley on front of engine is PTO. At first glance to someone who has not operated one of these, It may appear to work backwards. Engaged is when lever moves away from engine. Disengaged is when it moves towards the engine.

If your seller is selling mule drive, hanger and deck for 150$ and its in good shape then it is not a horrible price.

Hydraulic lift is a nice feature and it will lift front and rear implements. They can get expensive however. There is also a helper spring or lift assist that can be added to your mechanical lift. It makes lifting attachments much easier. As it is all mechanical it will be less expensive than a hydraulic set up would be.

BTW, Don't worry about asking questions. That's sorta what OCC is here for!

I checked out the PTO earlier this evening and the engage lever doesn't seem to control anything. That pulley is turning when the engine is running no matter which position that lever is in. Is this normal?

I spoke with the previously discussed seller and he has a helper spring, hanger, and mule drive to go with the deck. I think I can walk away with those items for $150. We are supposed to talk more soon.

I took more pics of my tractor earlier but I'll have to post them tomorrow when I get to my PC.

cooperino · #2 08-23-2019, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by 68ihcc

I checked out the PTO earlier this evening and the engage lever doesn't seem to control anything. That pulley is turning when the engine is running no matter which position that lever is in. Is this normal?

I spoke with the previously discussed seller and he has a helper spring, hanger, and mule drive to go with the deck. I think I can walk away with those items for $150. We are supposed to talk more soon.

I took more pics of my tractor earlier but I'll have to post them tomorrow when I get to my PC.

Take some pictures of the PTO. The lever that comes in contact with PTO should have a button on it that pushes in on center of PTO. That button could be missing. If the button is there but not making contact with center of PTO then it could simply be out of adjustment.

If you get all those items for $150 that is a good deal. Maybe he has the PTO/Mower belt as well!

Lets see some pics of the PTO when ya have a chance..

68ihcc · #3 08-23-2019, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by cooperino

Take some pictures of the PTO. The lever that comes in contact with PTO should have a button on it that pushes in on center of PTO. That button could be missing. If the button is there but not making contact with center of PTO then it could simply be out of adjustment.

If you get all those items for $150 that is a good deal. Maybe he has the PTO/Mower belt as well!

Lets see some pics of the PTO when ya have a chance..

I will have to look a little closer at the PTO and lever this evening when I get home.

Here are the pics that I promised. I'm thinking that these pics won't really help with the diagnosis of the PTO/lever issue that we're discussing so i will take some more pics this evening.

Billy-O · #4 08-23-2019, 02:11 PM

Nice tractor!

You'll need to take of that missing head bolt over the exhaust.....

Keep in mind, If you have NO implements installed with the belt on the PTO pulley, that PTO pulley will likely turn with the motor running. The PTO has no brake and the implements installed to it provides resistance to keep pulley from turning when disengaged.

68ihcc · #5 08-23-2019, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Billy-O

Nice tractor!

You'll need to take of that missing head bolt over the exhaust.....

Keep in mind, If you have NO implements installed with the belt on the PTO pulley, that PTO pulley will likely turn with the motor running. The PTO has no brake and the implements installed to it provides resistance to keep pulley from turning when disengaged.

Hello there, thank you very much!

I appreciate the heads up about the missing bolt. I am new to the tractor world so I definitely appreciate all the help I can get. I plan to get a bolt installed over the weekend and i hope to meet up with the guy that has the mower deck and accessories that I've been inquiring about. It's a stretch but I hope to have all of that installed over the next weekend or two.

I see in your signature that you have a 124. Which implements do you run on your machine and do you use hydraulics? I'm considering adding the hydraulic lift to mine.

R Bedell · #6 08-24-2019, 06:27 AM

IF......you want help with your PTO, then pictures of the PTO are needed. You can remove the Muffler or the Front Grill for a better view.

ol'George · #7 08-24-2019, 08:15 AM

If the bolt is broken off in the block, you might be doing more than replacing the missing bolt with a new one.
Might check that as it might change your future plans on things/relationship with the seller

Billy-O · #8 08-24-2019, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by 68ihcc

I see in your signature that you have a 124. Which implements do you run on your machine and do you use hydraulics? I'm considering adding the hydraulic lift to mine.

I mow, throw or plow snow, pull York rake, tow carts.... all general duty work around yard. I don't have hydraulics cause lifting the deck or the front blade is not heavy (not for me, anyhow) and I don't have a rear three point. Your rear box rake can certainly make a case for having hydraulics and it is nice to have. Besides hydraulics, you could use a helper spring, I think.

As for your missing head bolt, ol'George comment about something more that is likely to be right. Not to be alarming, but I would a least think about replacing that head gasket and perhaps maybe the head need to be flatten... which you can do easily. If the bolt has been broken, there are ways to get the stud out. The people here on forum can help walk you though any of these task....so if you need any help, give us a holler anytime!

68ihcc · #9 08-24-2019, 01:28 PM

I’m out here looking at it now. It appears that the head bolt is broken in there but pretty sure I can get that out and I will for sure consider replacing the head gasket. Here are a couple pics of the PTO. It appears that maybe there should be something that brakes the PTO from moving when you have the lever unengaged. Is that correct?

cooperino · #10 08-24-2019, 01:41 PM

Nope. No brake on that model. Hard to tell from pics. Is the button pushing on the center? It needs to apply enough pressure to push center of pto in just a bit.

Second look... button is gone looks like
Heres a link to the button. There are other styles. I like the OEM ones
https://www.ebay.com/i/202711188336?...0aAkPZEALw_wcB