Can a Sleeve hitch be converted to a Three-Point hitch?

crazicrow · #1 03-27-2018, 08:09 AM

Does anyone know if there is a way or kit to convert a Sleeve hitch machine to three-point? There are 2 attachments that I would be using most often which only come in three-point. I'm looking at a 105 now that is likely going to be going for too much $$$. The ability to convert a sleeve would greatly increase my options as to what machine I could buy (And surely help my budget as well! Lol).
Thanks muchly in advance for any help

J-Mech · #2 03-27-2018, 09:54 AM

Aaron at xtrememotorworks.com sells 3pt hitches for most all the Cub Cadets. They are a reproduction/custom hitch. The only Cat 0 3pt that was installed started in the '82 series tractors. Prior to that, the sleeve hitch was all that was available.

I don't know what implement you are wanting to use that you claim is only available in 3pt..... most any garden tractor implement is (or was) available in sleeve hitch. Unless you are looking at a 105 with hydraulic lift, I think your going to be pretty disappointed at how little you will be able to pick up with manual lift and a Cat 0 hitch. If you really need 3pt, I'd go to a SGT.

Randy Littrell · #3 03-27-2018, 09:56 AM

http://www.xtrememotorworks.com/

They have a kit, but you are not going to like the price. He makes really nice things, its just a complicated kit. There was not an IH built 3 point for the narrow frames.

What are you wanting to do that needs the 3 point? You can find about any kind of implement you could want for the sleeve hitch.

And by all means, give us some pics of your tractor. We love pics!

Randy

Billy-O · #4 03-27-2018, 10:08 AM

I think member and sponsor, Jeff in PA, will be able to help you......

J-Mech · #5 03-27-2018, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Billy-O

I think member and sponsor, Jeff in PA, will be able to help you......

He doesn't make 3pt hitches.....

crazicrow · #6 03-27-2018, 10:26 AM

This will be my first machine. I previously thought the only option was a compact with a loader which I haven't the room for nor would be worth the cost, Then I found out this could work well. What is a SGT? The attachments I found were a carry all and boom arm, But when I tried searching for them as sleeve attachments I found nothing. The purpose of the tractor would be for moving around furniture, appliances, etc. (I buy and sell random items often bought mixed in bulk and am reaching the point where the body just doesn't let me pick up a dresser and carry it 100' anymore. lol). I wasn't worried about the lift as I figured once I had the basics I could modify a winch with pulleys or something for that. Clearly I still have very little knowledge with this sort of thing. Being able to push snow in the winter would be a great bonus as well but not the main intent.

The 105 i'm looking at has a plow and deck and was completely redone including an upgrade to a 12hp kohler motor. I'm willing to go to $800 for it, but I think much beyond that is better off waiting for another to come along. The more I look the more i like the cubs and they seem to have the most readily available parts/options/etc. I'm also in long island, ny which eliminates many options due to freight/logistic cost/time.

crazicrow · #7 03-27-2018, 10:28 AM

Forgot to add this 105 also has an electric lift for the plow, so im thinking i could get a second plow for the bracket and weld up something (Only has to carry 2-300lbs)

J-Mech · #8 03-27-2018, 10:42 AM

Oh...... no, sir you are confused. Garden tractors have a Cat 0 hitch. The implements you are talking about would be Cat 1 minimum. You aren't going to be able to lift anything on a boom or carry all with a cat 0 hitch and manual lift. The electric lift won't pick up that much, and they are usually shot.

Sounds like what you need is a sub compact tractor. If you can't justify that, then maybe you need to fab up something of your own. Either on a Cub, or something else.

An SGT is a Super Garden Tractor.

crazicrow · #9 03-27-2018, 11:01 AM

Yes I was fully expecting to have to make some modification from the cat 0 - cat 1 (Though i did find a couple places that had "Adapter" pins I have NO expectation that it would be that easy. I checked the xtrememotorworks link and it wasn't that unreasonable. However it now raised the question that tractordata shows the 105 as one of the few with the "cub cadet three point" option, but xtreme shows an option for narrow frames, but not 100 series. Seems kinda contradicting. I'm good with the ingenuity, just trying to find the right base

J-Mech · #10 03-27-2018, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by crazicrow

Yes I was fully expecting to have to make some modification from the cat 0 - cat 1 (Though i did find a couple places that had "Adapter" pins I have NO expectation that it would be that easy. I checked the xtrememotorworks link and it wasn't that unreasonable. However it now raised the question that tractordata shows the 105 as one of the few with the "cub cadet three point" option, but xtreme shows an option for narrow frames, but not 100 series. Seems kinda contradicting. I'm good with the ingenuity, just trying to find the right base

No.... you just don't understand what you are reading.

A 105 is not a "100 series" it is a 1X4/5 series, and it is a NF (narrow frame) tractor. The "Cub Cadet 3pt hitch" is not a true 3pt. It is what all the other garden tractor manufacturers called a sleeve hitch. It was never offered with true 3pt. Xtreme makes a custom one for it.

No, simply changing pins from cat 1 to 0 isn't going to work. Hitch width and height is different..