Only Cub Cadets

PLEASE PATRONIZE OUR SPONSORS!

CC Specialties R. F. Houtz and Sons Jeff in Pa.

P&K Cub Cadet Machtech Direct

Cub Cadet Parts & Service


If you would like to help maintain this site & enhance it, feel free to donate whatever amount you would like to!




Attention Guest, We have turned off the forum to guest. This is due to bots attacking the site. It is still free to register.

-->
Go Back   Only Cub Cadets > Resources > Restoration Tips

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 09-18-2013, 08:37 PM
Sam Mac's Avatar
Sam Mac Sam Mac is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Galax VA
Posts: 18,878
Default Need paint help

Guys

I need some advice on painting. The last couple days I started to paint the fenders for a 1641. I wet sanded the powder coat, primed it with Rustolium rusty metal primer and sprayed it with Valspar Cub Yellow. No problems so far. This AM when I got it in better light I noticed that I had a couple areas that needed another coat for good coverage so I started to spray another coat, this is when it went bad. The paint started to wrinkle. I stopped and let it sit, later in the day I wet sanded the whole thing. Now do I need to re prime it or can I just hit it again with the Yellow? Thanks in advance.

Sam
__________________
2264 with 54 GT deck
1641 AKA Black Jack with a 402-E Haban Sickle bar mower
JD317 dump truck
BX2670 with FEL
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 09-18-2013, 08:48 PM
J-Mech J-Mech is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Oblong, Illinois
Posts: 17,594
Default

Have you ever: used the Rustoleum over powder coat, layed Valspar over Rustoleum?

I'm thinking one of the paints isn't compatible. I've had paint do that when I mixed brands. I don't know that you need to re-prime, but you may need to put a non-bare metal primer over the rusty metal primer. Does the Rustoleum seem to be well bonded?
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 09-18-2013, 08:58 PM
Sam Mac's Avatar
Sam Mac Sam Mac is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Galax VA
Posts: 18,878
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by J-Mech View Post
Have you ever: used the Rustoleum over powder coat, layed Valspar over Rustoleum?

I'm thinking one of the paints isn't compatible. I've had paint do that when I mixed brands. I don't know that you need to re-prime, but you may need to put a non-bare metal primer over the rusty metal primer. Does the Rustoleum seem to be well bonded?
John

I've use Valspar over Rustolium rusty metal primer many times with no issue this was Valspar over Valspar. Most of my stuff is rusty to start, gives the primer something to bite on LMAO
__________________
2264 with 54 GT deck
1641 AKA Black Jack with a 402-E Haban Sickle bar mower
JD317 dump truck
BX2670 with FEL
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 09-18-2013, 09:02 PM
J-Mech J-Mech is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Oblong, Illinois
Posts: 17,594
Default

Hmmmm. Are you using cans? Or a paint gun?
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 09-18-2013, 09:13 PM
Sam Mac's Avatar
Sam Mac Sam Mac is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Galax VA
Posts: 18,878
Default

Cans, I think what happened is that what I put on yesterday had setup on the surface but the new coat I put on today started to dissolve the first coat and caused the wrinkles.
__________________
2264 with 54 GT deck
1641 AKA Black Jack with a 402-E Haban Sickle bar mower
JD317 dump truck
BX2670 with FEL
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 09-18-2013, 09:17 PM
J-Mech J-Mech is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Oblong, Illinois
Posts: 17,594
Default

That is possible. May just have gotten a bad can too. You know how factory's are I think I'd just try shooting it again. If if does it again, try wet sanding between coats.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 09-19-2013, 04:15 PM
Sam Mac's Avatar
Sam Mac Sam Mac is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Galax VA
Posts: 18,878
Default

Got it done. Misted a light coat on, let it tack up, then another light coat, let that flash and then two heavier coats. Came out nice.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMG_3079.jpg (26.3 KB, 321 views)
File Type: jpg IMG_3078.jpg (25.5 KB, 320 views)
__________________
2264 with 54 GT deck
1641 AKA Black Jack with a 402-E Haban Sickle bar mower
JD317 dump truck
BX2670 with FEL
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 09-19-2013, 10:28 PM
bocephus1991's Avatar
bocephus1991 bocephus1991 is offline
Grand Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Jefferson City, Missouri
Posts: 2,633
Default

We had some metal parts at work they painted that were originally powder coated and the paint did the same thing,we ended up having to take it to bare metal then paint. If it were mine and not rusty I would lightly sand it then shoot it skipping the primer,least where the paint is good.
__________________
Brian

April 1979 1200 Quietline 44A deck 1988 1211 customized into a 1288 with a K301AQS 38C deck and a 1864 54” deck . Snow blades 42" and 54" . Brinly disk, brinly plow a cultivator and a $5 brinly yard rake!
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 09-20-2013, 07:46 AM
Cubcrazy's Avatar
Cubcrazy Cubcrazy is offline
Grand Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: PA
Posts: 9,200
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam Mac View Post
Got it done. Misted a light coat on, let it tack up, then another light coat, let that flash and then two heavier coats. Came out nice.
Good to hear Sam!
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 01-05-2014, 09:41 PM
mjsoldcub mjsoldcub is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 656
Default

maybe this thread is dead, but i was just reading, and if anybody wondering; often times most enamels will have a minimum re-coating time..say " do not recoat for 48-72hrs" if last coat has dried for a certain period of time. it is exactly what you thought sam mac...this is called alagation or alligator..previous coat may not seem wet, and even dry, although uncured, and as the coat on top starts to cure, it reacts and shrinks..enamels take along time to cure as opposed to uerethanes, laquers and such...when working with enamels i tend to do all my top coating in one day...im no expert, but have been "squirting" for about 15yrs..if this helps at all.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:00 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.

Cub Cadet is a premium line of outdoor power equipment, established in 1961 as part of International Harvester. During the 1960s, IH initiated an entirely new line of lawn and garden equipment aimed at the owners rural homes with large yards and private gardens. There were a wide variety of Cub Cadet branded and after-market attachments available; including mowers, blades, snow blowers, front loaders, plows, carts, etc. Cub Cadet advertising at that time harped on their thorough testing by "boys - acknowledged by many as the world's worst destructive force!". Cub Cadets became known for their dependability and rugged construction.

MTD Products, Inc. of Cleveland, Ohio purchased the Cub Cadet brand from International Harvester in 1981. Cub Cadet was held as a wholly owned subsidiary for many years following this acquisition, which allowed them to operate independently. Recently, MTD has taken a more aggressive role and integrated Cub Cadet into its other lines of power equipment.

This website and forum are not affiliated with or sponsored by MTD Products Inc, which owns the CUB CADET trademarks. It is not an official MTD Products Inc, website, and MTD Products Inc, is not responsible for any of its content. The official MTD Products Inc, website can be found at: http://www.mtdproducts.com. The information and opinions expressed on this website are the responsibility of the website's owner and/or it's members, and do not represent the opinions of MTD Products Inc. IH, INTERNATIONAL HARVESTER are registered trademark of CNH America LLC

All material, images, and graphics from this site are the property of www.onlycubcadets.net. Any unauthorized use, reproductions, or duplications are prohibited unless solely expressed in writing.

Cub Cadet, Cub, Cadet, IH, MTD, Parts, Tractors, Tractor, International Harvester, Lawn, Garden, Lawn Mower, Kohler, garden tractor equipment, lawn garden tractors, antique garden tractors, garden tractor, PTO, parts, online, Original, 70, 71, 72, 73, 76, SO76, 80, 81, 86, 100, 102, 104, 105, 106, 107, 108,109, 122, 123, 124, 125, 126, 127, 128, 129, 147, 149, 169, 182, 282, 382, 482, 580, 582, 582 Special, 680, 682, 782, 782D, 784, 800, 805, 882, 982, 984, 986, 1000, 1015, 1100, 1105, 1110, 1200, 1250, 1282, 1450, 1512, 1604, 1605, 1606, 1610, 1615, 1620, 1650, 1710, 1711, 1712, 1806, 1810, 1811, 1812, 1912, 1914.