CC 1200 (1600) Project

[mrcubcadet]

Well, as some of you might have saw...I have been looking for a WF roller, to put a freshly rebuilt .020 over K341 in, out of my 1650.


I was planning on fixing the 1650 that it came out of...but got looking at some of the places where the motor mounts have put holes in the frame (wear over time) and decided to get a different frame, and to get away from the ISO mounts.


Joe (Jluster) and I have decided to do some trading, and tomorrow I am getting his 109 with a blown motor. My plan is to put the K341 in it.....with a 3 speed/clutch from a 124. Then I will call it a 168...







Will try to get some pictures tomorrow when Joe gets here.

[darkminion_17]

Sounds like a good plan.You will have to change the brake lever on the brake pedal rockshaft from a gear drive also.

[CADplans]

I wonder if the clutch out of a 1806 was much different than the 1x8's.

My first Cub Cadet was a "148" built from a 86, and I tried everything except a new spring to keep that clutch hooked up!!

The clutch would just slip in third gear. Very disappointing build.

I did ask a lot of that tractor though,,,

It may have been due to my fluid filled tires, lots of inertia to overcome.

My QL 1000 will do more than the 148 would do.

[jlampe94]

Heavier spring for the clutch might also not be a bad idea with the extra horsepower, sounds like a cool project!

[mrcubcadet]

Originally Posted by darkminion_17

Sounds like a good plan.You will have to change the brake lever on the brake pedal rockshaft from a gear drive also.

Thanks! I suspect it will be mean with a 12" plow!



I have 3 bare wide frames that were gear drives. I can get the lever from one of them.

Originally Posted by CADplans

I wonder if the clutch out of a 1806 was much different than the 1x8's.

My first Cub Cadet was a "148" built from a 86, and I tried everything except a new spring to keep that clutch hooked up!!

The clutch would just slip in third gear. Very disappointing build.

I did ask a lot of that tractor though,,,

It may have been due to my fluid filled tires, lots of inertia to overcome.

My QL 1000 will do more than the 148 would do.

Interesting...maybe a 1806/582, or even a pulling spring.

Originally Posted by jlampe94

Heavier spring for the clutch might also not be a bad idea with the extra horsepower, sounds like a cool project!

Will defiantly have to look into putting a heavier spring in it. And thanks! Always have thought it would be cool to try it!

[mrcubcadet]

Maybe Dale (Merk) will chime in. He once told me about using a cultivator spring.

[mrcubcadet]

Here's the medium-duty spring Chris Westfall sells..... http://www.cubclassics.com/BLUE%20CLUTCH%20SPRING.JPG

[Matt G.]

The 1806 and 582 still use the same clutch as the WFs, essentially, and the spring is not strong enough to put 14+ hp to the ground, IMO. Get a stronger spring and it'll be fine. I have the red spring in my 582, and I use a locking collar behind it instead of the roll pin so I can adjust it. I have it compressed 3/4" instead of 1", giving me about 650 lbs instead of the stock 250-300 lbs, and it's not noticeably harder to push the clutch in. That's what I'd recommend.

[mrcubcadet]

Originally Posted by Matt G.

The 1806 and 582 still use the same clutch as the WFs, essentially, and the spring is not strong enough to put 14+ hp to the ground, IMO. Get a stronger spring and it'll be fine. I have the red spring in my 582, and I use a locking collar behind it instead of the roll pin so I can adjust it. I have it compressed 3/4" instead of 1", giving me about 650 lbs instead of the stock 250-300 lbs, and it's not noticeably harder to push the clutch in. That's what I'd recommend.

Would the blue medium-duty spring from Chris (600lbs I think) do it?



And, just got to thinking...is a clutch/drive shaft from a NF (124) different?

[ihnick]

I was planning on putting that blue spring in my 108 when I put the 14 in it. Id like to know some feedback on it as well

As far as the 168 project goes, this is gunna be fricken awesome