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Old 01-08-2011, 08:18 PM
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i serviced the transmission today. 6qts of hytran and a new filter and im on my way. i also fixed the linkage issue with the transmission. seems like there is a helper spring on the back of the tractor which seems to be interfering with the linkage. i loosed it up and its better, but i still dont know why it interfers with the operation of the trans linkage. i think the prevous did some interesting engineering on that spring assembly which is why it isnt right. im going to see if the right parts are still available. seems like this tractor was "farmed". allot of parts used were not the proper parts.

good news is that so far the engine runs fantasic. seems to have plenty of power and does not smoke/knock. im pleased with the rebuild so far.

im really surpised at how powerful this tractor feels. it just takes right off after i made the linkage work properly. they have one of the strongest drivetrains ever put into any tractor. has nice groundspeed too, allot nicer than my john deere 112.

all older garden tractors were made well and there is merit to all of them, but i think i understand this "yellow fever" thing. im not saying im going to buy another IH cub, but i sure do like the one i have. i cannot wait to really put it back to work again. this thing almost feels like a farm tractor.
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Old 01-08-2011, 08:30 PM
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You might want to check your level, you are a quart low..
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Old 01-08-2011, 08:33 PM
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It should hold 14 pints/7qts in the tranny.
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Old 01-08-2011, 08:36 PM
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i filled the trans fluid level until it poured out. it might have been more than 6, i was guessing 6. it didnt really matter i bought hytran by the gallon, and i bought 2 gallons. i used 1 full gallon and a little more than 1/2 of the other bottle. i drove the tractor a little bit and tomorrow i will check the level again, see if it went down after filling the filter.
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Old 01-08-2011, 08:52 PM
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I believe it's beyond time you get some manuals for the 147.................... A Cub Cadet is a different beast compared to a Bolens or a John Deere.

If you are convinced that the tractor has been cobbled, the manuals will prove to be invaluable!!

Since you are not familiar with IH Cub Cadets, you are not going to know what is wrong vs right, and then you are not going to know what the correct parts are, how to install them, or what the proper adjustments/setting of the many assemblies on the tractor/engine/transmission, etc, are.

Do yourself a favor, and click on the Binder Books banner at the top of each and every page on OCC...at a minimum, order the Operators Manual for the 147, and also the 147's Chassis and Engine Service Manual.

If you were guessing as you assembled the engine, and are guessing as you now work on the tractor, you are playing Russian roulette with messing something up.....something that could end up costing you a lot of $$, or hurting yourself or somebody else.

Or better yet, Pg 2 and 3 of the Tractor Tech Section they are both there in PDF format for free download.....
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Old 01-08-2011, 09:20 PM
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I believe it's beyond time you get some manuals for the 147.................... A Cub Cadet is a different beast compared to a Bolens or a John Deere.

If you are convinced that the tractor has been cobbled, the manuals will prove to be invaluable!!

Since you are not familiar with IH Cub Cadets, you are not going to know what is wrong vs right, and then you are not going to know what the correct parts are, how to install them, or what the proper adjustments/setting of the many assemblies on the tractor/engine/transmission, etc, are.

Do yourself a favor, and click on the Binder Books banner at the top of each and every page on OCC...at a minimum, order the Operators Manual for the 147, and also the 147's Chassis and Engine Service Manual.

If you were guessing as you assembled the engine, and are guessing as you now work on the tractor, you are playing Russian roulette with messing something up.....something that could end up costing you a lot of $$, or hurting yourself or somebody else.


i dont guess when i assemble engines. i downloaded the kohler k series service manual which is free on kohler's website in PDF format. go to kohler.com, engines and generators, kohler engines, go to engines, and select k series. look at k301, look to the right and click on service. jeeze, for someone to think i would rebuild something like an engine and not have the proper information avialable. i dont think so. i have rebuilt plenty of engines, including a chevy 350 v8. i know that the knowledge required to rebuild any engine is nessary. i also have a 147 service manual i downloaded in PDF format. i still have questions about some things, which is why i bring them here. after all that is why forums like this exist.

i understand that when any engine is rebuilt, there is no guessing involved. rod bolts MUST be tightened to a specific value, the camshaft has the have the proper end play, along with the crankshaft, the rings must be properly staggered, and the valve clearence has to be set properly. the timing marks must also line up.

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the operators manual might not be a bad idea, but isnt the information that is found in a book like that simple stuff that can easily be figured out or is there more to it than that?


as far as being cobbled, lol. i know this machine was cobbled, since the prevous owner was too cheap to buy simple things like hitch clips. anywhere a hitch clip was supposed to go, i found a nail. the paint on the blower housing looked like someone spilled stripper on it. when i reinstalled the gas tank i discovered that a leaking tank was the culprit. a good used tank has been purchased on ebay and i just waiting for it. i temporary use jb-weld on the tank, but i know that its not a perminant fix. i can tell the prevous owner was using it with a leaking tank for quite some time. the end of the cranshaft was messed up and the whole engine was destroyed. in less than a month's time i have a fully rebuilt k301 on this tractor that should last many years.
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Old 01-08-2011, 09:37 PM
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Keep up the good work ad356! Sounds like you know what you're doing and I'm feeling a little smart this evening, got my new 147 running and figured out some noise issues. What a sweet tractor the 147 is!!
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Old 01-08-2011, 09:46 PM
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as i said, this is my first IH cub, so im new to cub cadets. i am not new to kohler engines or garden tractors in general. my jd 112 was another basket case that i rescued from under a pine tree.... yuk. my 147 is a basket case that i rescued from some farmers garage, lol. it needs allot more work, but it has gone from being "old junk" to running/working in around a month. i might go look at a qa-42 tomorrow. i want to put this old tractor back to work ASAP. the only other thing i need to do to make it a working tractor again is repair the PTO clutch.
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Old 01-08-2011, 10:38 PM
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If you are repairing the PTO clutch, you should have the service manual. It's pretty good for that sort of thing.
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Yea, That JB Weld was leaking a month later. And since I fixed my tank the right way, had to paint it too! The Best Tractors Are A IH Cub Cadet! Glad your's is running great after the re-build.
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