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Old 12-16-2024, 04:40 PM
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Seems I never post until I need help. Mounted a small electric fuel pump(2.5 to 5) to the metal side plate below the solenoid. Connected the black ground wire to the bolt fastening the metal side plate. Connected the red wire to the red/white wire to the voltage sensor. It pumps fuel with key in run position but when I turn key to start, the engine does not crank over. No noise at solenoid or starter in start position. Would like to wire it near solenoid . All help will be appreciated. Have a great evening.
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Old 12-16-2024, 07:42 PM
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If I was doing an electric pump I would run a feed from the battery to a fuse to a toggle switch then to the pump. This way you can turn the pump on or of as you want. It would make it easy to shut the pump off and run it out of gas so that the carb won't get gummed up from gas sitting in it.
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Old 12-16-2024, 08:03 PM
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Sam, that is a great idea. At my age I am so forgetful that I would forget to turn it off and on. I thought these 1862 tractors had a vacuum fuel pump on them. I did not see one on this one. I can't understand why tractor will not turn over wired like this. Thanks for responding and have a great evening.
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Old 12-16-2024, 08:03 PM
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I store my cubs in a heated space during the winter months with a trickle charger connected to the battery. Occasionally, when it warms up now and again throughout the winter, I start them up and sometimes go for a little ride on each of them.

When I restored the cubs, I installed fuel shut-off valves in the fuel line. I used to close the valve, run the gas out and then ventilate the garage. Back then I never started them up until spring.

Maybe I'm getting lazy, but now, I just park them in the garage take them out and enjoy a little ride now and again in good weather. I use non-ethanol fuel, ALWAYS!

Question: So, if gas is sitting in the carburetor bowl for a month or two between rides, will it gum up the works? Or, should I run the gas out in the fall and let them just sit. What do you think is the best course of action?
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I shut the gas off and let 'em run dry, THEN TURN THE KEY OFF!!!!
Never an issue in the spring when needed.
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Sam, that is a great idea. At my age I am so forgetful that I would forget to turn it off and on. I thought these 1862 tractors had a vacuum fuel pump on them. I did not see one on this one. I can't understand why tractor will not turn over wired like this. Thanks for responding and have a great evening.
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Are you sure your PTO switch is turned off?
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Old 12-17-2024, 07:43 PM
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Ironman, Yep the pto switch is off. I disconnect the hot wire to fuel pump and tractor starts. Hook it back up and tractor will not crank over. The wire I used to connect fuel pump to is the only wire in electrical diagram that has power on run and shuts off when key turns off engine. If no one can show me another way, will have to use a toggle switch like Sam Mack said. His hook up is good but I would forget to turn the toggle switch off and on. Thanks for looking and have a great evening.
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Ironman, Yep the pto switch is off. I disconnect the hot wire to fuel pump and tractor starts. Hook it back up and tractor will not crank over. The wire I used to connect fuel pump to is the only wire in electrical diagram that has power on run and shuts off when key turns off engine. If no one can show me another way, will have to use a toggle switch like Sam Mack said. His hook up is good but I would forget to turn the toggle switch off and on. Thanks for looking and have a great evening.
Bob
I think a diode might help resolve the issue.
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Hook it up to the hour meter positve terminal, don't forget to use a fuse.
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The hour meter & the voltage sensor are not powered in the "start" mode. You could wire it that way and just leave the key in the "run" position for a minute to fill the carb bowl and then crank it over. You can then put your switch in that circuit and turn it off to run it dry. If you forget to turn off your toggle switch it will still shut the pump off with the key in the "off" position.

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