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Old 06-12-2010, 11:03 PM
tinkerin tim tinkerin tim is offline
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Talking 127 Steering problem

Hi everyone,
45 days ago I got a 149 from a friend and asked a question here. 3 days ago I bought a 127 . The wife was thrilled. ha ha. This is how it starts.
Anyway, this was listed on CL for $250 with mower deck and non working snow blower. I e-mailed they said another guy was coming over tomorrow at 6pm when the husband was home. Not wanting to rush this customer, my buddy and I pulled a trailer into their drive at 6:02. He was a no-show. Maybe because of the rain. His loss. I'm rambling, sorry.

The steering problem: you can turn to the right,but when you turn steering wheel to the left, the steering wheel as well as the tube surrounding it, rise up out of the dash. Looking at the parts list, it looks like the cam and tube assembly has what look like acme threads on the end. I'm likely wrong but could that be what's causing the lifting up? Kind of looks like something should be holding the tube down.


One other thing. The parts site shows 127 2050040U. Mine is 2050038U. Will these parts work?


Any help would be greatly appreciated.





Thanks

tim
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Old 06-13-2010, 12:24 AM
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Sounds like the top bearings are gone.

The IH built Cub Cadet columns (like you have) aren't that hard to rebuild and with the exception of the Original and of corse the different tube and shaft lengths they are all the same ("Ross" brand box).

Pull the column out, using the exploded view as a guide, take it apart, inspect the parts to determine what's bad... Heres the tricky part... Go to your local JD dealer and look at his exploded view of a JD 110 column, point out the parts that are the same as the ones you need to the parts guy and tell him you want them (JD 110's use a "Ross" brand box as well and JD charges quite a bit less for the same parts than your Cub dealer will). If there are any other parts that you need that are different than the JD parts, go to your local Cub dealer and get them there, but you shouldn't need to do that.

I think there are rebuilding instructions somewhere in the tech. section here, all you need to do is follow them to put your column back together.

10 different guys will give you 20 different ways to put the tube back in the gear box so it will say put, so I'll leave that part up to some of the other guys here.

Good luck (but you probably won't need it).
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Old 06-30-2010, 10:02 AM
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Thanks Yosemite,
I went to a deere dealer today and ordered bearings and gasket. The problem now is that the cam itself has some pretty chewed edges. I was wondering if I could put some hard weld on the edge and hand grind it back to sharp. The cam has almost like a chewed up 1/8" radius in some places.
I don't know how much surface I need for the follower to track.
Thanks again
Tim
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Old 06-30-2010, 10:58 AM
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Tim Lets see what you've working with.
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Old 06-30-2010, 07:32 PM
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It's very possible that you could turn the follower 90 degrees from the position it was in, but that depends on how badly it's worn.
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Old 06-30-2010, 11:31 PM
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Default 127 steering problem

Hi,
Hopefully the photos of the cam and follower will show up. Never posted photos before. You can see the condition of the cam and there is a flat spot on the follower. On one part site a new cam was $399.99. At that price I have a machine for sale. I think this is salvageable. Any comments welcome.
I just previewed this post. The follower pic is blurry,sorry. That's not what I'm worried about.
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Tim

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Old 07-01-2010, 08:51 AM
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Tim, I would put the follower in a drill press and use a 4" hand grinder to dress it up and reuse. I would also do the upgrade to the steering while you have it apart.
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Old 07-05-2010, 09:29 PM
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Default I think that the housing is fubar on 127

I like the grinder/drill press combo Oak.

Cleaned the housing out w/solvent like the service manual says.
I believe that the broken away internal flange is part of the casting and if you look at the other photos you can see bearing balls imbedded in the walls. I've never had one apart but this isn't following the original design I'm guessing. Also if you can make out the bottom(inside of the adjusting screw), it is terribly gauled up. Most likely the reason I can't get the adjusting screw to budge. Opinions welcome.

If anyone has a housing for sale let me know.

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TT
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