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Old 07-14-2016, 12:18 PM
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Question Mowing Deck Problem - Front Belt not moving

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I joined here, because i am a newbie with Cub Cadet Tractors... and i need your help.

I bought a CC 112 tractor. She works well for her age. I was mowing last weekend, after 20 minutes of mowing, noticed smoke coming from the front. I disengaged the mowing deck and turned the engine off and went to look for where the smoke came from, but no luck in pinpointing it.

Hopped back on, and started it, engaged the mower but it did not start. It seems the front ???? (circular gear?, i do not know what it is called) which engages the front belt is no longer moving/rotating.

the mower lever that engages the mower, seems to pull out/away from the gear, in order to engage it. I took a video that shows this.

I took a video that will hopefully show you (folks that are more experienced than me) what is happening ..
Since I am brand new to this mower, I do not know / remember what that front gear is supposed to look like. The mowing deck is fine, it's just that the gear / belt is no longer engaged to start turning...

Here's the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmAOjCZfb1A

At time marker 0:09 and 0:18 seconds in the video, you see this front wheel that is not moving in the video

Can you spot what might be causing that front gear / belt that drives the mowing deck to seize?

I appreciate you helping me get this old but beautiful machine working again

many thanks!
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Old 07-14-2016, 12:34 PM
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When you move the lever forward is there a gap between the pad on the arm and the button by the three fingers? There should be a fiber disk that has teeth
that engages the tin part with the grooves around it. I'm thinking all your teeth are gone. Look up in the tech library and see how to rebuild your clutch
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Old 07-14-2016, 12:39 PM
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That's your PTO clutch. Sounds like you smoked it. Probably need to rebuild/replace it.
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Old 07-14-2016, 01:01 PM
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I bought a CC 112 tractor
Sorry, no such model. Maybe a 102.


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That's your PTO clutch. Sounds like you smoked it. Probably need to rebuild/replace it.

Ditto.....
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Old 07-14-2016, 05:17 PM
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Thanks!!

oh, so not an easy fix.
I'll look up the tech library

the guy who sold it said it was 112 lol. I can't tell what exact model it is. I should look again.



" is there a gap between the pad on the arm and the button by the three fingers? There should be a fiber disk that has teeth
that engages the tin part with the grooves around it" <-- I will look and get back to you. Are there any photos or drawings to help me locate this on the tractor?


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Old 07-14-2016, 08:12 PM
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Post a couple pics. We can tell you what tractor it is.
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Old 07-14-2016, 09:23 PM
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Looks like a 102 or 122. As Terry said, with the lever in the forward position, deck engaged, there should be gap in between the fiber button and Pto thrust button. If there isn't, adjust the threaded Clevis on the rod after loosening the jam nut. There is a spec on this but if you don't have a gap while Pto is engaged this is your problem. Let's take a closer look. If the pto is only partially engaged it will not have a lot of tension on it and will smoke the disk. IF this was the problem and you caught it in time, it should be ok after proper adjustment

You have type A

http://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/showthread.php?t=9

PS your steering drag link looks quite bent and the tie rod end should not be on top of the spindle arm but rather underneath with the nut on top. It will bind the way you have it

PPS looks like you have the rare Lew OOPS pedal
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Old 07-14-2016, 09:55 PM
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Thanks for the video. They help.

My diagnosis is the PTO (thing that should be moving) is out of adjustment (IE there should be more of a gap between fiber button and button) and if that doesn't help then the PTO may need a rebuild.
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Old 07-15-2016, 04:44 PM
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Your PTO has had someone working on it already.
The fiber button looks to be new. Also looks like the arm of steel that the fiber button is mounted in was rubbing on the steel button after the old fiber button wore out and went away.
The metal fingers with the incorrect hex head bolts look to be mangled a bit.

My bet it was cobbled up by P.O. in order to get it to last long enough to sell.

Time to pull the pto off the engine shaft and rebuild or replace with a rebuilt one.
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Old 07-15-2016, 10:16 PM
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Your PTO has had someone working on it already.
The fiber button looks to be new. Also looks like the arm of steel that the fiber button is mounted in was rubbing on the steel button after the old fiber button wore out and went away.
The metal fingers with the incorrect hex head bolts look to be mangled a bit.

My bet it was cobbled up by P.O. in order to get it to last long enough to sell.

Time to pull the pto off the engine shaft and rebuild or replace with a rebuilt one.
I didn't like the look of the hex bolts either.
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