782 Dual brake conversion

wig · #1 04-08-2010, 11:12 AM

I have a 782. Have already bought a different rear-end with external brakes and can get the complete pedal and linkage today for $25-$30. Is it hard to complete the conversion and is it really worth the trouble? Will I gain anything from doing the conversion? Thanks

Matt G. · #2 04-08-2010, 01:49 PM

Are you talking about adding the independent brake pedals on the right side of the frame, or just brakes that are actuated with the clutch/brake on the left side of the frame?

bridgewatertek · #3 04-08-2010, 05:51 PM

Where did you get your pedals and linkage? I would like to do that on my 1450.

wig · #4 04-08-2010, 10:28 PM

I want to add the dual pedals. Does it matter what side they mount on? I have not got them yet but would have to mount them on the side that they came off of. If I mount them where they go, would they also run the linkage that is currently connected to the hydro part of my rear-end. What is my other option. Matt I know you have done this.

JayBrd · #5 04-08-2010, 11:21 PM

I think you're going to have an issue with the pedals hitting the side panel on the 782. the SGT's are longer framed in the mid section..

Matt G. · #6 04-09-2010, 08:24 AM

You can't easily use the SGT pedals because the SGT frame is longer, and the pedals don't interfere with the side panels as a result. I made my own that use smaller rubber foot pads (from a 2000 series) so they don't stick out as far. I carefully designed them to clear both the side panel and the lift rod for the front blade, etc. They also clear mower decks mounted underneath.

They do make a difference. Over the winter, I towed a trailer full of firewood (~1000#) through 10" of snow with my 782. I kept spinning tires, so I'd dance back and forth between the brakes, and I eventually made it. It should have been done with the Farmall instead of my 782, but it got the job done.

I mounted mine on the right for several reasons. One, if the safety switch on the clutch/brake is still functioning, it doesn't have to be reconfigured to work with the new pedals. Two, that's where they are on the supers; I didn't want to put them on the opposite side and then buy a super and not be able to find the brakes. Third, and probably most importantly, gear drives still need the clutch pedal on the left, so I couldn't put them there anyway, as the next set I make is going on a gear drive. Larger IH tractors also have the clutch on the left, and then the two brake pedals to the right. The hydro neutral return on mine is still connected to the original brake pedal. I don't use that feature on my tractors, so it wasn't a big deal to me. Also, you wouldn't really want to do that anyway, because if you tied it to the independent pedals, the tractor would stop every time you stepped on one of the brakes, which is not what you want.

After I get all the bugs ironed out of my design, I may offer a set of drawings so those with the skills can make them, or those with the money can have them made. I might consider going into very limited production if I don't get an internship this summer and wind up at home, but a few of the parts are a bit labor-intensive to make, so I'd probably have to charge somewhere between $150 and $200. You guys can go to my website and see what I've done with these on the "Projects" page. I still need to make a different shape for the pedals...the set on my 782 is a bit awkward to use. I have them redesigned, but I haven't had a chance to make another set.

Wig-

Like I said, the super pedals won't easily work. The ones I made would, but on an IH-built tractor, you'd have to drill 4 holes in the bottom of the frame. I use an existing set of holes on an MTD-built frame.

bridgewatertek-

Same things apply as what I said to wig. My design would probably have to be altered slightly as not to interfere with anything. If I ever own another QL, I'll probably see what it would take to adapt my design.

Matt G. · #7 04-09-2010, 03:52 PM

Oh, almost forgot. I put on a parking brake latch, too.

BCDSFCRET · #8 05-01-2010, 12:56 AM

Sir I think you are waisting your time. I have had 982s with the dual brakes and they did not work any better then the single brakes on my 782s.

#9 05-01-2010, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BCDSFCRET

Sir I think you are waisting your time. I have had 982s with the dual brakes and they did not work any better then the single brakes on my 782s.

Well you don't understand their intended purpose. They are steering brakes. With my rake or tiller on the back I can lock on rear wheel and spin the tractor 180 degrees, the front floats to some degree with that much weight on the back.

The other and maybe more intended purpose is when one rear wheel spins you can brake that wheel thus forcing the other wheel to take over and gain traction.

Scott