Only Cub Cadets

PLEASE PATRONIZE OUR SPONSORS!

CC Specialties R. F. Houtz and Sons Jeff in Pa.

P&K Cub Cadet Machtech Direct

Cub Cadet Parts & Service


If you would like to help maintain this site & enhance it, feel free to donate whatever amount you would like to!




Go Back   Only Cub Cadets > Cub Cadets > IH Cub Cadet Tractors (GT)

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-23-2009, 08:35 AM
ihc353s's Avatar
ihc353s ihc353s is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Bavaria, Germany
Posts: 320
Default Differents of Kohler KT 17???

Hi Guys,

now, i've a new Question.
Whats the Different between the Kohler KT17 Series 2, with Spec. Nr.: 24301, and the Nr.: 24302?
I saw Parts of it in some US Ebay Auctions.
Can i buy this Parts, and will this Parts fit to my Block, Nr.: 24302?

Look at the Pic of my Cylinder, can i own this with this crack, after rebuild, or need i an New one?

mfg Georg
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Cub Cadet 782 Motor 2 007.jpg (44.4 KB, 54 views)
__________________
I'm proud to be a German Cub Cadet 782 Owner!!!!
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03-23-2009, 08:44 AM
Willy Willy is offline
Captain Obvious
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Hope Valley, RI
Posts: 5
Default

Georg,
I'm no expert, but I wouldn't use that cylinder. There's too much of a chance that the skirt of the piston or rings will come down into that area and chew itself to pieces.

Find a new jug, they are cheap and you'll be much better off in the end.

-Ray
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-23-2009, 08:47 AM
R Bedell R Bedell is offline
Founding Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Michigan
Posts: 13,693
Default

Georg:

Kohler Spec Numbers:

24301 = Was made for John Deere
24302 = Was made for IH Cub Cadet

I would venture to say, that these motors are identical EXCEPT for the Crankshaft. The diameter of the crankshaft on the PTO end will be different

I had a small chip out on the bottom of one of my cylinder jugs also. The small chips did NOT effect the piston travel. So, the jug was bored .010 over and I have had NO problems. You can measure to see if the piston travels or is exposed to the "chip out area".

The jugs from the above Kohler Spec numbers would be interchangeable.



.
__________________
[B]Roland Bedell[/B]

CC Models: 100, 105, 1450, 782, (2) 784, & 2072

[SIZE="4"][B][COLOR="Red"]Buy:[/COLOR][COLOR="Blue"] Made in the USA[/COLOR][/B] [/SIZE]:American Flag 1:
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-23-2009, 08:57 AM
murphycc
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Georg

I have a spare Kt17 also with a broke rod, I will tear down in a couple of days and if the jug is good you can have it. Make it simple on me and I'll ship USPS Priority International, just pay the shipping.

Scott
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-23-2009, 08:59 AM
murphycc
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Georg

I'm not sure if jugs are interchangable from side to side, I think they are but I'm not sure, which of yours is damaged?

Scott
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-23-2009, 09:07 AM
R Bedell R Bedell is offline
Founding Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Michigan
Posts: 13,693
Default

Scott:

YUP...The jugs are the same.

__________________
[B]Roland Bedell[/B]

CC Models: 100, 105, 1450, 782, (2) 784, & 2072

[SIZE="4"][B][COLOR="Red"]Buy:[/COLOR][COLOR="Blue"] Made in the USA[/COLOR][/B] [/SIZE]:American Flag 1:
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-23-2009, 09:29 AM
ihc353s's Avatar
ihc353s ihc353s is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Bavaria, Germany
Posts: 320
Default

Thank you for the answeres,

@Murphy: Do you want to repair, or to Part the Engine, can i get the good Rod, and the Piston too?

Tomorrow, i will go to a Engine rebuilder, and look, if we can grind the Crank free of the Aluminium Parts, to get back the standard size.

I will make a reply, if i know more,

mfg Georg
__________________
I'm proud to be a German Cub Cadet 782 Owner!!!!
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-23-2009, 09:51 AM
murphycc
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ihc353s View Post
Thank you for the answeres,

@Murphy: Do you want to repair, or to Part the Engine, can i get the good Rod, and the Piston too?

Tomorrow, i will go to a Engine rebuilder, and look, if we can grind the Crank free of the Aluminium Parts, to get back the standard size.

I will make a reply, if i know more,

mfg Georg

Yes let me tear it down and I'll see what's good.

Scott
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 03-23-2009, 10:07 AM
R Bedell R Bedell is offline
Founding Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Michigan
Posts: 13,693
Default

Georg:

As a suggestion, I would HIGHLY RECOMMEND that you install two new connecting rods.

The connecting rods are made of aluminum. They have a tendency to become fatigued after years of operation. If you only install one (the broken one), the other may look good but CAN and often does let loose later. It is not worth tearing down the motor again, let alone any more damage.

__________________
[B]Roland Bedell[/B]

CC Models: 100, 105, 1450, 782, (2) 784, & 2072

[SIZE="4"][B][COLOR="Red"]Buy:[/COLOR][COLOR="Blue"] Made in the USA[/COLOR][/B] [/SIZE]:American Flag 1:
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 03-23-2009, 10:33 AM
MBounds's Avatar
MBounds MBounds is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Joaquin, Texas
Posts: 459
Default

Georg...Please pay attention to Rolands recommendation on the rods...be safe and not sorry...replace both rods!!

Myron B
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:23 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.

Cub Cadet is a premium line of outdoor power equipment, established in 1961 as part of International Harvester. During the 1960s, IH initiated an entirely new line of lawn and garden equipment aimed at the owners rural homes with large yards and private gardens. There were a wide variety of Cub Cadet branded and after-market attachments available; including mowers, blades, snow blowers, front loaders, plows, carts, etc. Cub Cadet advertising at that time harped on their thorough testing by "boys - acknowledged by many as the world's worst destructive force!". Cub Cadets became known for their dependability and rugged construction.

MTD Products, Inc. of Cleveland, Ohio purchased the Cub Cadet brand from International Harvester in 1981. Cub Cadet was held as a wholly owned subsidiary for many years following this acquisition, which allowed them to operate independently. Recently, MTD has taken a more aggressive role and integrated Cub Cadet into its other lines of power equipment.

This website and forum are not affiliated with or sponsored by MTD Products Inc, which owns the CUB CADET trademarks. It is not an official MTD Products Inc, website, and MTD Products Inc, is not responsible for any of its content. The official MTD Products Inc, website can be found at: http://www.mtdproducts.com. The information and opinions expressed on this website are the responsibility of the website's owner and/or it's members, and do not represent the opinions of MTD Products Inc. IH, INTERNATIONAL HARVESTER are registered trademark of CNH America LLC

All material, images, and graphics from this site are the property of www.onlycubcadets.net. Any unauthorized use, reproductions, or duplications are prohibited unless solely expressed in writing.

Cub Cadet, Cub, Cadet, IH, MTD, Parts, Tractors, Tractor, International Harvester, Lawn, Garden, Lawn Mower, Kohler, garden tractor equipment, lawn garden tractors, antique garden tractors, garden tractor, PTO, parts, online, Original, 70, 71, 72, 73, 76, SO76, 80, 81, 86, 100, 102, 104, 105, 106, 107, 108,109, 122, 123, 124, 125, 126, 127, 128, 129, 147, 149, 169, 182, 282, 382, 482, 580, 582, 582 Special, 680, 682, 782, 782D, 784, 800, 805, 882, 982, 984, 986, 1000, 1015, 1100, 1105, 1110, 1200, 1250, 1282, 1450, 1512, 1604, 1605, 1606, 1610, 1615, 1620, 1650, 1710, 1711, 1712, 1806, 1810, 1811, 1812, 1912, 1914.