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Old 11-07-2013, 04:37 PM
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Default Electric PTO switch on 1650

I put the the 36 inch snow thrower on today and noticed the PTO works only intermittently.

If the PTO switch is on, the tractor will not start, so I know that part of the puzzle is still correct.

Why does it shut off when running and now not start. I need help on.

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Old 11-07-2013, 04:47 PM
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My 1450 has the same problem. I'm going to watch this thread if you don't mind.
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Old 11-07-2013, 04:53 PM
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Most of the PTO control switches had 2 sets of contacts/circuits.

One was the safety interlock to prevent starting with PTO on, the other circuit was to provide power to the PTO. I have to "jiggle" my 800's switch to start the engine
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I don't know the reason for this problem to happen, What I do know is that I
had a similar problem with my 1250 Nightmare, and replacing the PTO switch corrected the problem.

With the bad switch in place, sometimes I had to close and open the switch (turn it on and off) a couple of times to get the starter circuit to close. Finally, I had enough, and replaced the switch to do something. The problem appears to be fixed.
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Old 11-07-2013, 06:22 PM
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I've also seen too low battery volts not be able to pull in PTO. I've had to jump start some off, the charging system will run the tractor but not enough juice to run tractor and pull in PTO. But the PTO switch may end up being your culprit, do you have a meter or test light?
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I do have them Alvy, thanks for the ideas!

The starter turned over a bit slow, tractor has not been run in awhile

I will charge battery tomorrow and report back
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Old 11-08-2013, 11:40 AM
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I've also seen too low battery volts not be able to pull in PTO. I've had to jump start some off, the charging system will run the tractor but not enough juice to run tractor and pull in PTO. But the PTO switch may end up being your culprit, do you have a meter or test light?
Hi Alvy, I tried charging the battery, didn't help.

1) Using the meter to check the switch, what wires should I hook to and look for how many ohms to see if the switch is bad?

2) Also, is this the part number for the switch (CUB CADET 725-3022, 925-3022, 1073 Electric PTO Switch)

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Old 11-29-2013, 03:36 PM
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Got the switch off the tractor. What terminals are "a" and "b" to test the ohms?

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Orange wire from key switch "s" terminal to clutch switch "c" terminal should have 12 volts during start, then comes out of "d" terminal to neutral start switch then to start solenoid. Ohms test with pto switch "off" you should see zero ohms at c and d. Testing a live circuit with these under load is better but if you have switch out in your hand, c and d test like I said and "a" and "b" should have zero ohm with switch on. Terminal b on clutch switch gets 12 volts from key switch "I" terminal which also provides positive to ignition coil, out of pto switch terminal "A" to pto, both wires tan. Test these areas close with test light or meter.
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Is this the part number for the Cadet 1650 switch (CUB CADET 725-3022, 925-3022, 1073 Electric PTO Switch)

Just want to double check before I order this
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