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11-24-2013, 08:15 PM
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782 problems
Well, I got my carb together, and got it back on the tractor last evening, thought I'd try to get it running today. While it was down I also installed an 1811 remote oil filter set up. For background info it is a Series II KT17, and I went from a leaky walbro to an overhauled Kohler carb from an older Series I KT17.
Fired up and ran after getting fuel into it, but seems like it wants to overspeed if I give it much throttle. I didn't undo governor linkage while I made the carb swap, I ran it at maybe 1/3-1/2 throttle for a few minutes, engine stopped dead (I was thinking seizure) hit the key and it restarted immediately (what the ?) I unscrewed the oil filter to see if I had oil psi, and I do have oil going into the center of the filter, but it seems weak. WHAT IS OIL PSI AT IDLE? I have a gauge at work I'm going to bring home tomorrow. Secondly, how can I check my idle/ full throttle rpm? What tool can I use? I'd like to get this adjusted right. I scrolled through the KT17 service manual linked here on the site, but the oil psi really concerns me. I didn't see an idle spec listed. Is there a way the remote filter/lines should be primed? What is the oil capacity of a KT17? I found the preliminary carb idle/main jet adjustments and I'm going to redo the governor adjustment per the service manual. Anyone have any other advice? Thanks for the help!
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11-24-2013, 09:26 PM
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11-24-2013, 10:18 PM
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J-Mech- not sure the bowl is running dry, it didn't even stumble, just stopped. It restarted immediately. It was strange. I did set both stops for the carb float according to the directions that came with it.
2nd question- had engine running, unscrewed filter, expected a HUGE mess and only got a little splash. I'm going to put a gauge on it tomorrow. 3rd- I think my meter has a tach setting, its a Cornwell (Electronic Specialties) ES-585. I'll try that. 4th- I did fill filter, but I'm still concerned. I ended up taking it off, flipping the adapter over and trying to run oil into the lines, then reinstalled the filter. Again I'll see tomorrow with a gauge. 5th- I ran it a little but since I'm worried about oil psi I gave up, but I'm positive it would start up if I tried it. Thanks for the help, I just don't want to risk hurting the engine, and the sequence of events (the engine stopping dead) has me second guessing things. I'm going to run through the governor and carb adjustments tomorrow once I know I have oil psi.
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11-24-2013, 11:21 PM
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Not really a good idea to unscrew a filter while the engine is running...... and it's just a little bitty oil pump... it isn't going to gush oil.
The filter is downstream from the oil pump. Filling the lines accomplishes nothing except less time running without oil at start-up. But since you already had it running..... didn't really matter. Even if your meter has a tach setting, you need the inductive pick-up clamp. Screw a gauge on it and check oil pressure. I highly doubt there is a problem there. I'm more concerned with the governor set up. I have no idea why it died while running.
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11-25-2013, 07:28 AM
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At a cold start up, my Oil Pressure is around 40 PSIG with SAE-30.
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11-25-2013, 10:11 AM
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MY BAD.....You are correct. Wasn't thinking clearly before coffee
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11-25-2013, 08:57 PM
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Well, just hooked a psi gauge up, and its not even thinking about moving.......the hose is about 6 feet long, but I'm afraid to run it for more than 10-15 seconds...on a good note it was easy to start.
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11-25-2013, 09:05 PM
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Just pulled the gauge off the port, fired it up, in about 5 seconds it barely even dribbled out of the oil passage hole. Wondering now if the pickup could be blocked or how is the pump driven? I'm assuming the passage is right after pump but prior to pressure to the crank or rods?
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