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Old 05-03-2013, 06:51 PM
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Default Model 169? Just inherited this please help (Pics Added!)
Hello, I am new to cub cadet, My grandpa just gave me his cub, it is a model 169, I am just curious if it had come with a optional hydro bucket? It is chain driven from the shaft that runs from the motor to the rearend! It's got a little hydro pump off on the left side when sitting on the tractor! I have ripped all the teeth off the sprocket on the shaft and not sure what to do so I can get the bucket to work again!? Please any advice would help!


( my grandpa has dimentia and lives 1200 miles away)

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Old 05-03-2013, 07:16 PM
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Sir, you just lucked into my second favorite "wish-list" cub (right behind a Kubota powered wide frame) with a sweet and somewhat rare aftermarket front end loader (currently there is a loader for sale on here for $2k)...

Sounds like you just need to figure out what caused the teeth to strip (seized pump?) a new sprocket to be back in business!

I'm not expert on your setup, but I'm jealous enough to comment! Sweet Cub for sure!
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Old 05-03-2013, 10:20 PM
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Can you post some picture(s) of your 169?
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Welcome to OCC! Congrats on your 169! Hope to see some pics!
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I have never seen a commercially made chain drive run at engine speed other than a go-cart, and one of those sprockets is GIANT!! And the chain is REAL small.

There is a guy building a machine that will power a pump @3600 RPM (engine speed) on another site. We will see how his does.

I do not think a chain drive can run that fast. I would expect the gears to fail.
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Welcome to the 169 club, they are a great machine! Hope you get yours fixed soon!
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CAD, I respectfully disagree... There are MANY motorcycles in this world running chain drives to the rear tire at 15,000 rpm or greater at over 200hp. Motorcycle chain isn't exactly huge.

I'm not familiar with the exact chain drive setup being discussed here ,but a chain can certainly outrun the 3700 RPM that a Cub would be laying out. ANSI series 40 would be a giant overkill on a Cub and would stall the engine out before any mechanical failures.

Now... With bolt on kits or home brewed solutions chain alignment and tension can greatly effect the durability. With a legitimate kit, I would hope they engineered those failings out of the system.
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CAD, I respectfully disagree... There are MANY motorcycles in this world running chain drives to the rear tire at 15,000 rpm or greater at over 200hp. Motorcycle chain isn't exactly huge.

I'm not familiar with the exact chain drive setup being discussed here ,but a chain can certainly outrun the 3700 RPM that a Cub would be laying out. ANSI series 40 would be a giant overkill on a Cub and would stall the engine out before any mechanical failures.

Now... With bolt on kits or home brewed solutions chain alignment and tension can greatly effect the durability. With a legitimate kit, I would hope they engineered those failings out of the system.
If I calculate correctly, with a 2 foot dia tire, that bike will go 1070 MPH.

Anyway, I agree, it may be able to work, but, you do not see it often, especially on AG equipment (think dirt!! )

Machines like the COPAR or other old GT's usually reduced the speed prior to a chain drive with a belt drive.

Like this go-cart:



We will see, when the OP sticks up some pics.
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If I calculate correctly, with a 2 foot dia tire, that bike will go 1070 MPH.
I'm not entirely sure where you got that number?

The drive ratio is determined by 2 sprocket tooth counts (driver and driven). Final theoretical top speed is determined by the final drive ratio, transmission gear ratio, and wheel height.

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Agreed... We'll both know a lot more if we can see some pics! No matter how it works, or doesn't, I'd really like to see it!
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CAD, I respectfully disagree... There are MANY motorcycles in this world running chain drives to the rear tire at 15,000 rpm or greater at over 200hp. Motorcycle chain isn't exactly huge.

I'm not familiar with the exact chain drive setup being discussed here ,but a chain can certainly outrun the 3700 RPM that a Cub would be laying out. ANSI series 40 would be a giant overkill on a Cub and would stall the engine out before any mechanical failures.

Now... With bolt on kits or home brewed solutions chain alignment and tension can greatly effect the durability. With a legitimate kit, I would hope they engineered those failings out of the system.
15,000 x 2 x 3.14 x 60 / 5280 = 1070MPH
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