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03-06-2013, 09:14 PM
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Hypothetical question involving ported hydro pump
Ok, so here's what i'm thinking. I have a crafstman loader (johnny bucket jr.) on my 1650. I have a box blade on the rear operated by the hydro. What I want to do is operate the lift action of the loader with the hydro as well. I know they are not strong enough to operate a full loader but have seen one operate the front bucket using the bracked by the right footrest. The reason I don't want to go this route is I want to be able to operate the box blade and front bucket independently of each other. So......Could I operate another cylinder off the one hydro pump?? I was thinking get another lift handle with valve and somehow set it up to operate the front. One for the front, one for the back.
Brent Edit: Man I need to proof read my posts!!! Just had to fix 3 typos. lol 
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03-06-2013, 09:25 PM
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Yep, just plumbing and valves. Oh and you can put a loader on the 1650. Lots of guys here on OCC can help you with your questions. Look up CADplans for loader info. He has some very cool loader plans for do it yourself builds.
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03-06-2013, 09:46 PM
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The problem with the on board hydraulics is pressure and volume of the pump. It will work but take a long time to lift and curl the bucket. Also the volume of the trans might not carry enough fluid. I've heard people try but never heard about the outcome. They where talking about putting a remote tank somewhere.
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03-06-2013, 10:02 PM
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Keep in mind this is a johnny bucket jr. I just want the hydro for up and down movement, no bucket curl. I will still operate the bucket dump manually. So basically I just want to know if I can lift the bucket on the front, and the box blade on the back up and down independently using the ported pump. Just adding plumbing, valves, and lever.
Brent
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03-06-2013, 10:02 PM
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That is for double acting cylinders (up and down pressure). Single acting cylinders use a large volume of oil (up pressure only). I have built as well have seen MANY Cub Cadets powered by the hydro pump run loaders, no extra tank needed. Some day I will get around to putting my CC149 with loader on YouTube. The loader works perfectly off the hydro. Some people say not to use this pump for loader duty, I say bunk!! The pump is always pumping oil anyway, why not use it?? Mine is almost 20 years old.
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03-07-2013, 08:52 AM
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I'm going to do the same thing, except to install front hydro outlets for angling a snow blade. I bought a single spool valve, a lift cylinder, front hydro steel lines off ebay and a "splitter" kit from xtreme motorworks. I'll install the second valve using the splitter kit to run fluid to it from the original valve, and actuate it separately from the existing lift control. Haven't decided exactly how I'm going to do it yet, but I've seen a few others' designs. the hydraulics are totally doable. Now you are talking about splitting your lift mechanism front and rear, You'd need to fabricate a separate lift arrangement for the johnny bucket. I'm not sure how you'd do that but it doesn't sound too difficult.
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