please help me set up my tiller

[machinehead323]

I have a 1650 SN 660859 that has a mule drive to a 50A deck. Therefore it has the angles pulleys. I am trying to hook up a #1 tiller to it. When looking at the tiller belt chart nothing really matches up to my situation. From the chart It looks to me like both #1 and #2’s use the same tiller tine drive belts? I have a wideframe with an electric PTO. So what PTO belt do I need? I do not have a angle drive yet and keep hearing about ½ and 5/8. Is just the lower pulley on the angle drive a different size? If so it seems I need the smaller one? These belts are pricey and want the right one. From my serial number I guess I should have a #2 tiller using the IH-61959-C1 7/16 X 145-1/2 BELT. 7/16 is under ½. My mower drive belt calls for 3/8 x 79, so 7/16 kinda makes sense. I have a ½ on it now and it fills the pulley up. Looking at the 2 series manuals it says those equipped with a 50” rotary mower, a tiller front drive package will be required. Do I need this package? I guess it is different pulleys and hangers that go straight back instead of angling my belt like the offcenter mower deck. If I have to change out the pullys I would rather get a different mule drive and set it up for this. Are the solid steel pulleys required? What all kinda mule drives will fit on mine if needed. I guess I could get angled ones and straighten out the hangers. I’m sure I have confused anyone that has read this also. Any help would be appreciated. pictures of setups would be great.

does anyone have a drawing of the tiller lift bar? i do not have one and can turn one down and drill the holes on the mill. i just need dimensions.

[Methos]

You need the 38"/42" mule drive which are straight. That's the set up on my 1650 with model 1A

[cdlong]

I just went this route with a 1A tiller on my 1450. Get the correct, straight mule drive. I tried using a 50" deck mule. Without a shop, it's almost impossible to "straighten" the angled arms. I'm using a mule for a 42 inch deck, but will get a mule for a 44 inch deck. I'd rather have the arm on the left that tells you the belt is tight by just looking at it, rather than having to get a tape measure to check it. Might be an old age thing, sometimes I get down and have a hard time getting back up!
IH-61959-C1 7/16 X 145-1/2 BELT, is the belt I was told to purchase for the 1450.

[Methos]

Originally Posted by cdlong

I just went this route with a 1A tiller on my 1450. Get the correct, straight mule drive. I tried using a 50" deck mule. Without a shop, it's almost impossible to "straighten" the angled arms. I'm using a mule for a 42 inch deck, but will get a mule for a 44 inch deck. I'd rather have the arm on the left that tells you the belt is tight by just looking at it, rather than having to get a tape measure to check it. Might be an old age thing, sometimes I get down and have a hard time getting back up!
IH-61959-C1 7/16 X 145-1/2 BELT, is the belt I was told to purchase for the 1450.

I'm almost sure the 44-50 mule drives are the same.

[4SPEED]

WF tiller Mule

Yellow one is a home made NF

[Methos]

THe white mule drive is off a 82 series and will not work on the older models. BTDT

[4SPEED]

well I tryed ,,, I thought a WF was a WF , guess not.. Im still the FNG here so.

maybe the pics will help some....

[Methos]

Originally Posted by 4SPEED

well I tryed ,,, I thought a WF was a WF , guess not.. Im still the FNG here so.

maybe the pics will help some....

Doug I had to learn the hard way so no worries.

[Matt G.]

If you've got an extra 44/50A mule drive, you can very easily straighten the arms with a vise and large crescent wrench. BTDT with my first tiller tractor.

[k grove78]

just found out yesterday that my mule drive from my 82 series won't work on my 1450 for my tiller either. now have to figure out how to put my model 2 tiller on my 1450.