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Old 08-05-2012, 06:01 PM
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I'm new to this website and I thought I'd share with you guys my new work/play toys. I responded to a craigslist ad the other day for a Cub Cadet "Original" and while I was there I picked up a '67 124 for $50 bringing the combined grand total to $200. The Original has no exhaust pipe or carb. and has been plugged off and the 124 doesn't have the factory hood and it doesn't run. I was told it ran last year. I'm going to get the 124 running first since I plan on actually using this one ASAP and leaving it unrestored while the "Original" will not be kept original. A full resto is planned.
I've been looking for an "Original" Cub Cadet because my father owned an International Harvester dealership back in the day and I use to go to his garage at the dealership when I was a kid and ride around on the old Cubs. It's been many moons since I've been around old Cub Cadets and I would like to get some info on what to check on the 124 to get it up and running. I pulled the plug and cleaned it and set the propper gap. I also sanded the ignition points and checked for spark. It has spark but will not fire. I've tried starting fluid and only twice did it make any sound like it was trying to fire. Mostly it just cranked and cranked with no reaction. When I had the plug removed and touching the block for spark check, the spark was strong most of the time but every once and a while it would be weak. Any idea what my problem is?
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Looks like you got an awesome deal Welcome to OCC! Not much of an engine expert so I'll leave your question to those guys.
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Awesome scores! Have you checked the timing on the 124? Coil or condenser could be bad as well. Sometimes when they sit for a while the gas goes bad or eats the rubber and it plugs the carb up.

I'm finishing up on 2 Original restores. I'm looking forward to seeing yours when you get started.
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Awesome scores! Have you checked the timing on the 124? Coil or condenser could be bad as well.
I haven't checked the timing yet seeing as how I haven't got it running yet. Do you guys think it could still be the coil or condenser even though it is getting spark? I also noticed something about the Kohler K301 that might be another problem. I haven't done a real compression test on it yet but I think it may need a rebuild. When turning the flywheel over by hand there is almost no resistance from inside the engine leading me to believe the rings are worn out. Even if the rings are worn to nothing that wouldn't affect it starting or not. It's not a diesel engine that requires a certain compression to fire. Any thoughts on both problems I mentioned?
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The Kohler K301 has an automatic compression release, which can lead you to think exactly what you are guessing. It may be just fine. As far as the spark, I would go ahead and commit a few bucks to a new spark plug, wire, condenser and points. All those items are fairly cheap (Check out Tulsa Engine Warehouse . com) and I'd bet it's time to replace all those items. Get it timed properly, and then if you still have IGN issues you can think about the more expensive coil.

That is cool your pop had an IH Dealership. Do you have any old memorabilia of his you could display along with your tractors? Old brochures, signage, keychains, etc really add some vintage coolness to these old iron mules.

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I haven't checked the timing yet seeing as how I haven't got it running yet. Do you guys think it could still be the coil or condenser even though it is getting spark? I also noticed something about the Kohler K301 that might be another problem. I haven't done a real compression test on it yet but I think it may need a rebuild. When turning the flywheel over by hand there is almost no resistance from inside the engine leading me to believe the rings are worn out. Even if the rings are worn to nothing that wouldn't affect it starting or not. It's not a diesel engine that requires a certain compression to fire. Any thoughts on both problems I mentioned?
All could be bad but.lets hope not the low compression is because of tbe ACR automatic compression release. That is normal once fires it is diabled and has way more compression
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