Is this PTO salvageable?

[Grandpa53]

Did you put the ends of the throw out levers in the groove on the button?

[Coolkp]

Looks like have sort of the same issue as @Sonofsquink on a 122, son used it with rototiller to till the garden, the PTO was working fine but now the PTO will not dis-engage at all and it had wore down the fiber "wear-button", the set screws are out of alignment with the notches, I put a spacer where the wear button goes in hopes of being able to compress the spring to get it to turn to line up holes, that did not work. I have not had the opportunity to remove the the front of it to try the hammer on the thrust button method or 2 or 3 jaw puller legs to get it to move, (maybe should spray it good with PB Blaster and first). I did notice the disc is in bad shape look like it is in pieces.


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Thoughts comments:

Is something going on with using tillers that cause PTO issues....?

I am curious if anyone has any idea what cause it to fail and not disengage the PTO? bearings locked-up or fried....?

So looks, like need to order a rebuild kit.....Also have looked at the other post on removing and rebuilding PTO along with you tube videos.

thanks for your time.

[Grandpa53]

The thrust button appears to be on backwards

[Grandpa53]

My bad. After looking at picture again I believe button is put on correct but maybe clutch is not adjusted correctly and is bottomed out therefore keeping clutch engaged ???

[Grandpa53]

You also want to make sure bearing is flush with end of crankshaft and locking ring is tight. If it was loose it may have shifted towards engine leaving crankshaft protruding possibly preventing clutch from releasing.

[darkminion_17]

Originally Posted by Grandpa53

You also want to make sure bearing is flush with end of crankshaft and locking ring is tight. If it was loose it may have shifted towards engine leaving crankshaft protruding possibly preventing clutch from releasing.

Seems like you nailed it. I can see that the disc is too far back on the PTO basket. The key to rebuilding is to be sure you tighten the nuts for the fingers very tight.

[Coolkp]

So instead of tapping with hammer and trying to turn it to line hole with notch up (which does not appear to working) , should I try a puller to pull out on it to get it to move...? or just bite the bullet and cut new notches out....?
or since the disc has a few tabs broke off, just break the rest of them off to line it up...

[Grandpa53]

Is basket pulley in alignment with starter/generator pulley? If it is, either clutch has shifted or the missing pieces of the disc could possibly be wedged between clutch pulley and pressure plate. If that's the case you'll need to cut new access holes/notches to get set screws out or block crankshaft from turning and try rotating clutch to get pieces to hopefully dislodge. GOOD LUCK!

[spndncash]

I would guess this pto is not assembled and or adjusted correctly. looking at the screws for the throw out levers, I believe they were originally phillips, but they were certainly all the same type-not two flat blade and one phillips.