K-241 vs K301 power
 

Is there any noticable difference between a k241 and a k301 when using a tiller or snow blower?

What about pulling a 10in plow? I want to make my 102 my work horse. trying to deside if it's worth swaping a rebuilt k301 I have on the shelf. I Already have a creeper gear. the 102 looks like it was well taken care of the engine sounds good and tight. I haven't been able to use it much because the sterring box was busted when I bought it. I bought a 3 turn box off ebay should be here next week. heres some pics, look at the sterring bar the po made.

Im glad nothing else broke while he owned it. I think the 10 will do fine, I not going to go out and stick the tiller in hard ground. I will turn the ground over with a plow then come back in a week or so with the tiller.

So the creeper so not strong enough, even if it's in high?

Nice 102, Dale! The creeper is not made for pulling. It's use is for running a tiller or snowblower. :beerchug:

All the creeper gears are too slow anyways. 1st gear in high is faster then 3rd gear low

so what you guys are saying is not to have the creeper gear on a tractor thats used for plowing. the whole unit is weak even if using it in hi 1:1 to plow?

so I should have two tractors one for plowing and one for tilling with a creeper gear?

There is nothing weak about the tractor or the creeper. What the creeper does is slow the tractor down in order to hold back the tiller when tilling up the plowed ground. I would not try to use the tiller on hard ground that has not been plowed. The tiller needs to work the dirt down to where it is in really small clumps and the tiller can at times propel the tractor forward if it gets too good of a hold on a root or rock. Normal 1st gear when tilling is probably going to be too fast, thus the reason for the creeper. Also the slower you go when snowblowing the better the blower works. When turning ground in the spring with the plow you would probably use your normal 2nd gear. You need some momentum when plowing to get smooth full cuts. Hope this helps some. :)
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The creeper isn't strong enough to be used in low with any sort of load. You can plow with it in high, although if you plan on plowing a lot with that tractor, you might want to consider having two tractors. Creepers are expensive and many parts are NLA or really expensive, which is why I'd leave it off of a tractor that pulls a plow a lot.