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Mudrig150 09-26-2018 12:16 AM

Drawbacks
 
What were the main drawbacks for the 82 series kohler k series, kt series, onan, and magnum engines? Planning on doing a K series swap into a roller but want to know the main issues these engines face.

J-Mech 09-26-2018 12:29 AM

You listed four engines.... what one do you want to talk about?
How familiar are you to the internal workings of an engine?
Do you plan to overhaul any of said motors? (In other words, if one has an issue or a "drawback" are you going to actually fix it? Or just avoid it altogether?)
Do you have a roller '82 series to put a motor in yet?

Gompers 09-26-2018 01:01 AM

They are all expensive to rebuild and repair. That’s the major drawback.

And finding parts can be difficult.

None of them are great on gas.

None of them are super easy to work on. For instance, Kohler recommends pulling the blower housing off every 50 hours to clean them out. That basically means pulling it out of the tractor.

Other than that they are all great engines.

Plus side, you can just drop a quietline k series with the cradle into an 82. So that’s an easy swap.

J-Mech 09-26-2018 01:39 AM

Gompers where the heck do you buy parts? Kohler?
The K series is great on gas, cheap to rebuild, super easy to get parts for and stupid easy to overhaul and work on.. The only part that you can't get is the cam flyweight spring. Even at that, you can pick up a good used cam for like $25-$30.

R Bedell 09-26-2018 07:01 AM

Pros - Good running engines

Drawbacks - As always.....Money

Leadslingingdaddy 09-26-2018 07:24 AM

I learned by getting my hands dirty actually working on various engines rather than punching keys asking numerous ambiguous questions....

Mudrig150 09-26-2018 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Leadslingingdaddy (Post 467512)
I learned by getting my hands dirty actually working on various engines rather than punching keys asking numerous ambiguous questions....

I try to learn like that but other things get in the way.


Aren't the onans notorious for dropping valve seats? I've seen a lot of JD 300 series posts where the engine dies because a blown valve seat.

Gompers 09-26-2018 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 467505)
Gompers where the heck do you buy parts? Kohler?
The K series is great on gas, cheap to rebuild, super easy to get parts for and stupid easy to overhaul and work on.. The only part that you can't get is the cam flyweight spring. Even at that, you can pick up a good used cam for like $25-$30.

I meant the kt, mag and onan.
On Kt/mag, good luck finding .020 or bigger pistons. Valves are mostly NLA, and when you find them they are $30 or so each (and you need 4 instead of 2). Even the condenser is NLA ( though it’s trivial to make a replacement).

You’re right though that K series is probably one of the cheapest engines to rebuild and super simple to work on.

J-Mech 09-26-2018 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Mudrig150 (Post 467515)
Aren't the onans notorious for dropping valve seats? I've seen a lot of JD 300 series posts where the engine dies because a blown valve seat.

Seeing as how a JD 300 had a K341 engine in it, I would say wherever you are reading the guys are FOS.

Gompers 09-26-2018 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 467527)
Seeing as how a JD 300 had a K341 engine in it, I would say wherever you are reading the guys are FOS.

300 series would include the 318 (and 317 which had an Onan kit later in it's run after KTs kept spitting rods out the sides of the crankcase), no?


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