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dodge trucker 03-27-2017 07:13 AM

Drive Line Clutch question
 
Can I use a drive clutch and hub from a 70 on a 1200? (yeah I know, narrow frame to wide frame/quiet line...) I'm talking drive clutch, not PTO here.

Sam Mac 03-27-2017 08:44 AM

I'm not positive but I seem to recall that you can but you need to replace the engine mounts with solid mounts.

dodge trucker 03-27-2017 01:18 PM

I have a set of those lingering around from when I tried them on a buddy's machine and they shook my fillings out, they were terrible on his 1200, but I have had several solid mounted Kohler powered machines and none of these seemed near as bad as that one tractor was.

J-Mech 03-27-2017 01:39 PM

Then there wa a likely another issue. It's the same 12hp as in a 129, just with a different starting and charging system.

Yes, you have to solid mount it to use a standard 3 pin driver.

dodge trucker 03-27-2017 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 413645)
Then there wa a likely another issue. It's the same 12hp as in a 129, just with a different starting and charging system.

Yes, you have to solid mount it to use a standard 3 pin driver.

I thought so as far as same engine from the 129,. I also have a couple of Ariens tractors with the single cylinder K series Kohlers that don't rattle news as much as my buddy's 1200 does....

Merk 03-27-2017 04:30 PM

The drive shaft is shorter on a narrow frame if my memory is working right. Cub Cadet has 2 different part numbers for the driveshaft.

Do yourself a favor....spend a few bucks and fix it the right way. There are several parts that are different between a Quietline and Narrow Frame IH Cub Cadet.

dodge trucker 03-27-2017 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Merk (Post 413666)
The drive shaft is shorter on a narrow frame if my memory is working right. Cub Cadet has 2 different part numbers for the driveshaft.

Do yourself a favor....spend a few bucks and fix it the right way. There are several parts that are different between a Quietline and Narrow Frame IH Cub Cadet.

I still have the original 1200 driveshaft in good shape. It's the hub that bolts to the engine that is coming apart, I assume it is from old age and fatigue.

I plan to fix it right,, have another tractor (my son's) that can use this 70 clutch, but at least for now since I got the 1200 as a non running barn find, when I went to check it out upon bringing it home, I found the screw/pin that holds the governor gear laying among the muck along the frame. so I never tried to run it.
I don't yet know if this is gonna be a keeper, or a flip to fund the 129 which is definitely a keeper.
Further, at present, my plans are to fix the gov gear issue (I have a metal replacement gear already, using what I have on hand) replace all the associated gaskets from the bad governor gear repair, and not pull the piston and rod (cyl does look good!), reassemble the engine and give it a whirl. If this engine winds up being a smoker, the plans change.... looking at head and valves, the carbon buildup wasn't all that bad.
I am wanting to put the 70 clutch on it "for now" to try the tractor out and then see where things stand from there.

I got this and a 1650 that has no engine, as a package deal from a neighbor that was cleaning out a relative's barn getting ready to sell the property.....
I was hoping the 1650 had a motor, supposedly they had the 16hp rebuilt by a professional engine shop and "it didn't last a year" so it got pulled again and tractor pushed into a corner. they did not know much at all about this 1200..... and the relative that owned them, is no longer with us to ask....

R Bedell 03-27-2017 07:09 PM

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Do yourself a favor....spend a few bucks and fix it the right way.

Amen....

:IH Trusted Hand:

dodge trucker 03-27-2017 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by R Bedell (Post 413683)
Amen....

:IH Trusted Hand:

Until I figure out what I am gonna do with this machine, that is "on hold"/ I don't want to wind up with "$400 into a $250 tractor" so to speak until I know whether it will ultimately be a"keeper" or not....

R Bedell 03-27-2017 07:33 PM

$400 into a $250 tractor, makes it a $650 tractor.

If you are patient and do some research, hunt, and internet searching, you can find some really good deals.


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