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SLS327 07-09-2016 02:22 AM

Lost directional control
 
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I got about half the lawn mowed and then, lost directional control at the wheel. quick inspection found this:bigeyes:. I am pretty sure it was welded once because the welding on the inside of the arm, but I think it originally has a roll pin. I just got a welder, this will be my first repair, if I get the top part out of the arm.

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ironman 07-09-2016 06:58 AM

You've got nothing to lose by trying to weld it but I can't see it working unless you're really good.
A quick search on eBay got this....
http://www.ebay.com/itm/IH-Cub-Cadet...8AAOSwXeJXeFWj

john hall 07-09-2016 07:11 AM

You need a spindle, not a repair job unfortunately. I've worked with quite a few professional welders and all of them would back away from trying to weld that, its just not going to hold. Even if it were "V'd" out and put in a jig for welding, the concentricity between the 2 pieces of shaft would probably be out so much you couldn't get it back through the axle. Ask yourself this, what if it next time it breaks the front end makes a sudden dart toward a building, ditch, curb, parked car----you may have a lot bigger problems. Not trying to be pessimistic, but welding this up as a satisfactory repair isn't very likely.

SLS327 07-09-2016 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ironman (Post 382630)
You've got nothing to lose by trying to weld it but I can't see it working unless you're really good.
A quick search on eBay got this....
http://www.ebay.com/itm/IH-Cub-Cadet...8AAOSwXeJXeFWj

That is exactly what I need, thank you.


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Originally Posted by john hall (Post 382631)
You need a spindle, not a repair job unfortunately. I've worked with quite a few professional welders and all of them would back away from trying to weld that, its just not going to hold. Even if it were "V'd" out and put in a jig for welding, the concentricity between the 2 pieces of shaft would probably be out so much you couldn't get it back through the axle. Ask yourself this, what if it next time it breaks the front end makes a sudden dart toward a building, ditch, curb, parked car----you may have a lot bigger problems. Not trying to be pessimistic, but welding this up as a satisfactory repair isn't very likely.

You are probably correct, its been welded once before like that, and I always wandered how I was going to fix the spindle if I wanted to take it apart.
The picture of the ones on ebay have the arm solid on top, was the one I have drilled through to get the weld on top of the spindle to the arm?

Alvy 07-09-2016 04:35 PM

Yes, The top arm is solid on top, not drilled though. The top of the spindle shaft has a hole drilled in it as does the top arm. Top arm sits over it and spiral pin holds them together. Spiral pin is missing in the ebay pics

Terry C 07-09-2016 04:58 PM

Save the shipping and walk over to Jeffs and get one

SLS327 07-15-2016 07:19 PM

I got the new parts about 4 blocks away:biggrin2: I am wandering if anyone else has had this trouble and what the best solution to install the pin. Should I use a grade 8 bolt, spirol roll pin, or spring pin.

SLS327 07-16-2016 04:20 PM

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Even though the spindle to spindle arm had been broken and welded before, I think that maybe the bolt in the quick attach frame made interference for this to break :bigthink:. I have always put the front bolts in the quick attach to prevent wear on the pins. So I just installed the front bolt only, but sometimes I've had problems getting them loose because the bolt or nut spins on the inside:bash2:.
Anyways here are some pictures of the axle rotated clockwise showing interference with the bolt and then the final solution. this way it won't hit again.
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ironman 07-17-2016 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Steven s (Post 383513)
I have always put the front bolts in the quick attach to prevent wear on the pins. So I just installed the front bolt only, but sometimes I've had problems getting them loose because the bolt or nut spins on the inside:

I too, like to put the bolts in to make it nice and solid, especially when using a plow. If/when I have the motor out, I tack weld the nuts to the inside of the frame, even on non-QA tractors. Makes it soooo much easier. Don't understand why I/H didn't do it in production?

OldSkull 07-17-2016 09:15 AM

A new Member (Gregory) post this link lately: http://www.spaco.org/loose.htm

You still need a spindle of course! Here Gregory tractor picture:

http://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/a...1&d=1468702954

And his 70 restoration thread:http://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=45048


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