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jedward 03-15-2016 11:50 AM

Hydro Pump no pressure
 
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Hello all - I am working on a IH Cub 782 after blowing one of the hard lines coming off the pump the system seems like there is air in the hydro system.
We replaced the line and yesterday I was able to get it rolling but today no dice. Yesterday we pulled the return line off and had pressure but today nothing. There is enough oil in the rear but my relief valves appear to be spitting quite profusely. I noticed that the input shaft is leaking oil onto the oil filter - need to know if anyone knows what model hydro this unit has and if there are any recommended parts providers. Thanks in advance all!

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ol'George 03-15-2016 12:06 PM

Welcome to OCC!
You can use this fellow to rebuild the bleeding sundstrand dump valves.
about 75% cheaper than new.
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How did you "blow" a steel line? never heard of one blowing! :bigthink:
We need more info as what happened in order to answer questions.
The seals are about all you want to replace exteriorly
Taking the hydro apart is not only for the experienced, but most of the parts are sky high if available from Cub cadet or parts tree.
a used hydro if a better option.

jedward 03-15-2016 12:14 PM

Broken Steel Line
 
Good question Ol'George!
After years of wear and tear and my brother's use the rear bolts holding the axle to the frame came loose and shook the line till it broke. That was when we noticed the bolts missing - have since then replaced them.

So if the sundstrand dump valves are rebuilt the pressure will come back and the system bleeds air from the many different pressures of the pump?

I was able to get the wheels rolling but after trying to actuate the piston you could see it move a little bit and then stop and it would sink back into what ever position it wanted. Then the wheels stopped entirely.

Thanks again all!

J-Mech 03-15-2016 12:50 PM

No, those valves are for the hydrostat forward and reverse.

So, is the issue that the tractor won't move, or that the hydraulic lift doesn't work, or both?

Did it shear the spirol pin on the input shaft to the pump? Very common issue that happens. Especially if your bolts were not present and it beat on lines hard enough to break them.

If the rear is full, and the tractor is running, look to see that the output shaft sticking out the back of the hydro is turning. If not, you have a broken pin. If it is, then with the wheels on the ground, put the hydro in either forward or reverse and push the tractor the direction you picked. DO NOT move the lever but just a little bit. If the pump does prime it will begin working and moving like it should, so don't run over yourself. DISCLAIMER: This is safely done with two people. (For the lawyers out there. :bigeyes::biggrin2:) The system will self bleed once primed. Sometime it is hard to prime.

On another note, you didn't punch a hole in the filter did you? Happens alot with the issue you had......

jedward 03-15-2016 01:01 PM

The pin is not sheered - I can see the shaft rotating in the rear of the hydro.
I do notice that there is no whine coming from the hydro like there was in the past when I was able to get it running so I believe it is not primed. Is there a specific procedure on how to complete the prime?

Also I have looked the oil filter over and it is not punctured.
Thanks all!!

Sam Mac 03-15-2016 01:11 PM

When was the last time the filter and fluid were changed?

jedward 03-15-2016 01:24 PM

I do NOT know about the fluid or filter.
Filter looks newer?

J-Mech 03-15-2016 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jedward (Post 367743)
Is there a specific procedure on how to complete the prime?

I just went over how to prime it in my last post.....

Terry C 03-15-2016 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jedward (Post 367750)
I do NOT know about the fluid or filter.
Filter looks newer?

Change the filter and fluid and then do what jmech said about giving it a push

Sam Mac 03-15-2016 03:43 PM

Not 100 percent sure but I think the old filters are yellow and pretty sure they changed to white a couple years ago.


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