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pdlloyd975 07-17-2015 11:53 AM

Cub 1200 no power to starter
 
Greetings all.. my first time on here. long story short.. have two cubs. 1975 Cub Cadet 1200 & 1976 Cub Cadet 1200. 1976 was acquired from my dad's neighbor when he passed. 1975 was my dad's.

History: 75 ran up until about 4 yrs ago. parked it. Decided to resurect it.. towed to garage. battery dead. put charger on it to have power to play with. I have power to elec lift, power to solenoid, but no power out of solenoid to starter. Replaced grounds, replace hot wire to starter. Power at the coil.

Already done: (all these were swaps from the 76 that runs to MY 75.) swapped coils, swapped solenoids, swapped ignition switch. EVERYTHING that i "think" could be the problem. With all those parts on the opposite machines, the 76 still runs, the 75 still has no power to the starter. (engine will turn / not locked up)

I'm at a loss here, short of pulling all wiring out and starting from scratch. (yes, i checked all the fuses and replaced)

Any helpful hints?

olds45512 07-17-2015 12:04 PM

When you have the key in the start position is there power coming out of the solenoid ? Did you check the wire running from the solenoid to the s/g for continuity?

pdlloyd975 07-17-2015 12:25 PM

i did not check that, but will this evening or tomorrow. what's the s/g?

olds45512 07-17-2015 12:36 PM

S/g = starter generator but I just realized yours just has a starter.

pdlloyd975 07-17-2015 12:51 PM

ahh, duh... sorry.. it does have a generator also i believe..that's what keeps battery charged right? but, yes, i did replace the hot wire coming from the solenoid to the starter.. completely bypassed the factory one. when i jump the solenoid, the engine turns.

olds45512 07-17-2015 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by pdlloyd975 (Post 337953)
ahh, duh... sorry.. it does have a generator also i believe..that's what keeps battery charged right? but, yes, i did replace the hot wire coming from the solenoid to the starter.. completely bypassed the factory one. when i jump the solenoid, the engine turns.

On the older cubs the starter and generator were all one unit. on your tractor you have a starter and a stator, the stator is like the alternator in a car and yes that's what charges your battery. When you hold the key in the start position you should be getting power to the small terminal on the solenoid, this is what activates the solenoid to start the engine. The solenoid should also be grounded otherwise it won't work, if the positive checks out ok I'd start looking at the ground.

pdlloyd975 07-17-2015 02:31 PM

You're correct about the starter / generator / stator. OK, i'll check wires when in key is in start position and post back.. but it'll be one day first of the week before i can get my hands back on it. I did reground the solenoid though, thinking that may be it too.. regrounded starter... nothing as of yet. Weird part is that all the "elec parts" i swapped from the running one to the non, worked on the running one, and the non, still won't hit... it's like there's a circuit that's open and not supposed to be (or closed and not supposed to be) that's preventing power from getting out of the solenoid. No circumstance that i've tried thus far, has produced power out of the solenoid. :bash2:

olds45512 07-17-2015 02:56 PM

Also check the safety switch on the clutch pedal

pdlloyd975 07-17-2015 02:58 PM

it doesn't have one that i know of... i grew up riding and mowing on this thing 35 years ago... it'll start in gear. No switches that i'm aware of.

BThein 07-17-2015 03:22 PM

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It should have a safety switch on the clutch/brake ,wiring diagram shows it .Also the PTO switch has to be off,been there done that one.

Bob


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