800 small starter
 

Hello to all, new member here. I've been browsing around for a few days now and this is one heck of a great site! I have an 800 that a friend gave me a few years ago and recently decided to get her going as my wife and I just bought our first house and I don't wont give $2000 for a new throw away mower (as I call em). My 800 is a little rough but still a solid machine for the most part. I need some advice on the "small" starter, my armature windings are bad and from what ive gathered they are hard to come by. What are your thoughts on having it rewound vs the bigger starter and does anyone have an idea of what a rewind might cost? I really don't want to cut the frame and go to the bigger starter but if I do go that route does anyone have info or pics on the correct way to cut it or should I just keep wrapping a rope around the clutch assembly and pull starting it?

First welcome to OCC... :Welcome2:

Well, here is what I found.

OEM: KH-41-098-02
Vendor : UT AMBAC09680-27-M020SM

Kohler states the KH-41-098-02 is NLA and does NOT offer a replacement.

Cub Cadet states to use the KH-41-098-08 as the starter for the 800.

Will do more research and see what is going on.

Let me break out my Rosetta stone.

Research complete.......

Seems, the original starter was problematic, with numerous failures. Hence the reason, they are NLA.

The replacement is a bigger (physically) and works far better.

So, you have three choices:
(A) Get lucky and find a NOS starter.
(B) Have the starter repaired by a "competent" repair shop.
(C) Buy the new upgraded starter and notch out the frame.

Anyone have pics of what needs to be done to the frame? Just curious, I'd like to see both the small and large starters just to learn.

I have the big starter on my 800 and it was not cut. The "lip" of the frame was bent out in one small area to accept

Sam,
Here's a pic of the small, original starter for an 800. This was my old 800 that went down the road. On the larger starters, the lip of the frame needs to be notched so the starter fits in. I've seen good notching, and notching where it looks like the guy took a butter knife, hammer and torch to it.

Josh

Thanks for the pics. I would guess it could be trimmed with a cut off wheel in a die grinder pretty easily. Save the cut out part for a future restore and if needed welded back in so you'd never even notice. Just my 2 cents.

Save the starter too.

Good point, I should have said that. :beerchug:

I'm good with mods as long as you can return it to original unless it's just never going to be worth trying to restore. Stuff like 800's even I would have a hard time cutting up. :beerchug: