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rdehli 08-01-2014 09:14 PM

1864 motor question
 
Question on the 1864 after running I idle down and let run for a few moments the shut off. It wants to continue running even with the key in the off position we call it dieseling in my part of the country, any advice on this issue. Also is or was there a gas gauge available for these? thanks in advance..

PaulS 08-01-2014 09:33 PM

If I read right the 1864 has a Kohler command engine. Proper shutoff procedure for the command engine is to speed it up to at least 1/2 throttle and then shut it off.

rdehli 08-01-2014 10:05 PM

thanks for the insight, but wont it back fire then some of my other kohlers will do that if they are warm.......I will try and let ya know. thanks much. Btw...is this a common issue with the command motors?

J-Mech 08-01-2014 10:35 PM

Fuel shut-off solenoid probably isn't working right, or the spring is broken or the rubber tip is bad. Pull it out and have a look. I don't recommend shut down above idle.

cyr2872 08-01-2014 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by rdehli (Post 278257)
Question on the 1864 after running I idle down and let run for a few moments the shut off. It wants to continue running even with the key in the off position we call it dieseling in my part of the country, any advice on this issue. Also is or was there a gas gauge available for these? thanks in advance..

Found this old thread on Yesterday's Tractor that may be a little help. Close to the same issue you are having.

http://www.yesterdaystractors.com/cg...rdent&th=50046

J-Mech 08-01-2014 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by cyr2872 (Post 278274)
Found this old thread on Yesterday's Tractor that may be a little help. Close to the same issue you are having.

http://www.yesterdaystractors.com/cg...rdent&th=50046

I call bull on that. The fuel solenoid shuts off gas at the base of the emulsion tube. That's where ALL fuel that goes through the carb comes from. It IS NOT just plugging the high speed circuit.

rdehli 08-01-2014 10:48 PM

J-Mech

Got a pic of the fuel solenoid. ...just getting used to the new technology.

Thanks in advance

CubDieselFan 08-01-2014 11:19 PM

I read somewhere, I think on Lawnsite, to never shut down a Command at idle. It can even cause damage to the engine, that is what I read anyway. I have always shutdown my 1863 at a fast idle and it never backfires. Just my experience.

ccpullin 08-01-2014 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by rdehli (Post 278257)
Question on the 1864 after running I idle down and let run for a few moments the shut off. It wants to continue running even with the key in the off position we call it dieseling in my part of the country, any advice on this issue. Also is or was there a gas gauge available for these? thanks in advance..

I have a Cub Cadet M60 Tank with a 25 Kohler Command for going on 12 years now. It will do the same thing, diesel if turned off at idle, and backfire out the exhaust if turned off at mid throttle. I was told back when it was new to always let it run at full throttle for a few minutes after mowing (to cool down not under load) then turn it off still at full throttle. It always shuts off without dieseling or backfiring, and does not flood as you do not smell un-burnt gas and it will fire right back up. I do the same on my 2084 and my 2284 with no issues. I know it goes against what a person thinks is proper, but that is what is recommended by CC and it works. Providing the solenoid is working properly, this should work.

rdehli 08-01-2014 11:31 PM

If that's how you shut down the command it certainly goes against everything that I have learned over the years . With that said I have never owned a command either. I am still getting used to the seat pressure switch. It might get by passes. Lol


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