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LawnMowerMan 10-30-2013 05:29 PM

Perplexed
 
:bigthink:

I have a 582 in good condition and am wondering why are the Red line tractors are special. I'd like to get a 1450 or 1650 for the hydrostatic and hydraulics. Is the 16 hp 582 any better than a 1450 or 1650?

J-Mech 10-30-2013 05:58 PM

IH and CCC only built one series of red tractors. That's why they are so "near and dear" to us. But really, they are the same as the next two series of tractors.

You aren't really comparing apples to apples. The 1450 and the 1650 are hydrostat tractors. If you want to compare machines, use a 682 or 782. Or, compare your 582 to a 1000 or 1200.

LawnMowerMan 10-30-2013 10:24 PM

Perplexed
 
:Thanks:, I'll hang onto it. Did Cub ever have a two lever hydraulic lift/angle control on the 1450 or 1650?

J-Mech 10-30-2013 10:51 PM

Yes they did, and it was an option on the later 1250's.

OldAndInTheWay 10-31-2013 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by LawnMowerMan (Post 223583)
:Thanks:, I'll hang onto it. Did Cub ever have a two lever hydraulic lift/angle control on the 1450 or 1650?

The 1450 I just finished fixing is a dual stick/dual hydraulic. I have a power angle blade that goes on it. Gonna mount it today.

drglinski 10-31-2013 05:12 PM

Not trying to offend anyone here.....

BUT


I've never been impressed with the red ones.

IH Cub Cadet 10-31-2013 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by OldAndInTheWay (Post 223597)
The 1450 I just finished fixing is a dual stick/dual hydraulic. I have a power angle blade that goes on it. Gonna mount it today.

Not fair - dual hydro!!! Better send it west to me where we get some snow and the power angle can get a workout...:bigthink:

johncub7172 10-31-2013 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by LawnMowerMan (Post 223545)
:bigthink:

I have a 582 in good condition and am wondering why are the Red line tractors are special. I'd like to get a 1450 or 1650 for the hydrostatic and hydraulics. Is the 16 hp 582 any better than a 1450 or 1650?

I think the Red 82 Series lawn and garden tractors are special because, originally IH wanted to paint their garden tractors red starting with the IH Cub Cadet back in '60 - '61. So, to have a series come out in IH Red was a long, over due welcome! The 4 gallon fuel tanks had to have been great as well.

The 582 is a killer, boasting a Briggs twin 16, backed by the gear drive transmission! I think it was the most hp. for a gear drive garden tractor IH Cub Cadet ever put out. The 82 Series have a great look to them as well! I actually sat on a 682, and that seemed like a sweet tractor in itself!


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