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IAfarmer 01-09-2010 01:29 PM

Substiantial Oil leak
 
I was adjusting the chain on my snowblower towards the end of my work today when I discovered a puddle of oil in the snow under the front of my 782. Also, I noticed where the tractor is parked, there is a puddle of oil. Since the oil checked OK prior to use, and is now on the bottom of the dipstick after running for 1 hour, this needs fixed ASAP.

Is this most likely the front seal? It is coming from the front of the engine. Is that the type of job that can be done when it is 5 degrees and below outside, and maybe 10 in the garage?

Since my 1450 may become the main snow machine now, I have a question. Is the snow blower belt different for it than for the 782? This tractor is new to me, so I know little about it and how parts swap over. Thanks.

Matt G. 01-09-2010 01:37 PM

It's probably the PTO end seal...you'll have to look around a bit and see where it's coming from. It seems to me like that's a lot of oil for a leaky seal though. The PTO clutch has to come off, which means the muffler shroud and muffler need to come off to make things easier. Assuming it's not all rusted stuck, everything slides off pretty easy, and the coil comes off with 4 bolts. It almost sounds like something blew the seal out of the engine. Make sure your breather assembly didn't break or something. It's not gonna be fun to do in the cold, but you might not have much of a choice. If I was in your place, I'd be doing it.

In addition to a shorter (and smaller, as in 3/8" belt), you'd also need a different pulley on the thrower to run it on the 1450. You *might* be able to get the 5/8" belt on there, and the PTO clutch pulleys on the QLs are pretty wide IIRC, but it might not be the right length. The pulley on the thrower will also have to be moved back a bit to realign it with the PTO clutch on the 1450.

IAfarmer 01-16-2010 08:44 PM

I am down to the oil seal. Dad told me to push it back a 1/4 inch or so, but it would not go back any further. I put the muffler back on and left the clutch off so I could watch, and I saw the oil seal move back and forth, spin, etc. So it isn't really sealing. It leaked once the engine stopped, but not while it was running.

Is there more wrong here than meets the eye, or will the clutch keep the oil seal in place. I figure since I am this deep into it, I might as well order a seal from the IH dealer.

What special tools will help get the seal out? This one is different than all the Brigs, and Mopar engines I have worked on before.

Glad I have the 1450!

Matt G. 01-17-2010 03:23 AM

The seal needs to hold itself in the bore. The clutch will not hold it in place, hence why you've got a leak. I would order the correct seal from a CC/Kohler dealer...aftermarket seals may not fit properly. A screwdriver will probably have the old seal out in a couple minutes.

IAfarmer 01-17-2010 08:35 AM

Thanks a ton for the help. Glad this site is here!

ajgross 01-17-2010 09:37 AM

The best diea I've heard about getting that seal out is to drill a small hole in it and screw a drywall screw in it and pull it out with a pair of pliers.

AJ

rcbee 01-17-2010 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by IAfarmer (Post 18763)
Thanks a ton for the help. Glad this site is here!

also good to lube thet new seal up before slipping on the shaft to install - and lightly dress down the exposed shaft to remove knicks/burrs that could cut the new seal as it slides into position. pc of very fine emory cloth does good for thet.

ditto on drilled hole(s) suggestion..


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