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jimbob200521 07-14-2013 05:00 AM

Need a new solenoid? A Ford will work
 
Well was back at it working on the 127 again yesterday, this time giving the electrics a more in-depth going through. Ended up finding out that the solenoid was bad when I tried to remove the rusted on side nut and it spun all the way through. So, rather than pay $93.32 for the Cub part and wait a week, I made a trip to O'Reilly's and before I knew it, I was in a conversation with an employee and two older gentlemen at the checkout counter trying to find a replacement part. One of the guys suggested a Ford replacement solenoid. The employee grabbed it, we compared the two, and for $12.83 I walked out with a new solenoid. I don't have the part number in front of me, but the bolt holes line up perfectly and it even has an extra post for ignition if I ever need it. Long story short, replaced it and a couple old battery cables and she fired right up. Anywho, onto the pics.

Old:

http://imageshack.com/a/img690/915/h6k9.jpg

http://imageshack.com/a/img822/3352/8y5r.jpg

New:

http://imageshack.com/a/img853/2733/3bgl.jpg

save_old_iron 07-14-2013 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbob200521 (Post 205329)
and it even has an extra post for ignition if I ever need it.

Not quite. The "extra" post goes hot when the solenoid is engaged. It is NOT A SPARE TRIGGER terminal.

The extra post was used to bypass an external ignition resistor during cranking for the coils that required an external resistor.

R Bedell 07-14-2013 07:06 AM

On some solenoids....the extra small terminal was a ground terminal. Look at the wiring directions that came with the new solenoid.

save_old_iron 07-14-2013 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbob200521 (Post 205329)

The white wire looping to the battery cable is touching the hoodstank metal. Eventually vibration will wear away the insulation and you have a short circuit.

Either shorten the white wire or redress the wire away from rubbing on the rough (rusted) panel. :beerchug:

J-Mech 07-14-2013 11:47 AM

I see a bare wire in there........ Maybe you better replace some more wires :bigthink:

There is another solenoid that only has one terminal. It's an old Ford one too. Not that it matters, as the 4 post will work fine. For the most part, the only difference in solenoids is how they mount. Some are wired differently, but no big deal. :beerchug:

jimbob200521 07-14-2013 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R Bedell (Post 205338)
On some solenoids....the extra small terminal was a ground terminal. Look at the wiring directions that came with the new solenoid.

It's not a ground, what save_old_iron said is right, it becomes hot when the key is turned.

Quote:

Originally Posted by save_old_iron (Post 205341)
The white wire looping to the battery cable is touching the hoodstank metal. Eventually vibration will wear away the insulation and you have a short circuit.

Either shorten the white wire or redress the wire away from rubbing on the rough (rusted) panel. :beerchug:

Already on it, I'm in the process of sorting the poor old wire situation out, this was just a first step.

Quote:

Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 205392)
I see a bare wire in there........ Maybe you better replace some more wires :bigthink:

I think I should have put it in the first post, this is a tractor work in progress, most of the wires will be replaced as a PO had done some funky wiring with it. I'm still sorting it all out :bash2:

Yesterday was overall a positive day, went from dead battery, finicky starting, and no battery charging once started to new solenoid with a couple new wires and a tractor that'll charge its own battery. Still a long way to go, though.

drglinski 07-14-2013 05:35 PM

I bought a headlamp from them for my 147. I was impressed they carried it.


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