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Charlie-141 FE 03-31-2012 02:32 PM

1810 PTO disengaged
 
I have searched and could not find a previous thread on this but I'm sure I have seen one, I mowed for the first time this year with my 1810, mowed for about 2 minutes and the pto disenguaged. re started and ran for a minute then disengaged. Then it would not restart, waited a few minutes then it started again. Long story short it works intermittenly. Anyone know of a particular reason for this? The PO has bypassed the reverse toggle switch that is activated when putting the tractor in reverse, i pulled the conector apart and the mower deck stopped, I am assuming that switch is in line with the PTO but am not sure what other components are. Is there a wireing diagram somewhere? Thanks

Methos 03-31-2012 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Charlie-141 FE (Post 124297)
I have searched and could not find a previous thread on this but I'm sure I have seen one, I mowed for the first time this year with my 1810, mowed for about 2 minutes and the pto disenguaged. re started and ran for a minute then disengaged. Then it would not restart, waited a few minutes then it started again. Long story short it works intermittenly. Anyone know of a particular reason for this? The PO has bypassed the reverse toggle switch that is activated when putting the tractor in reverse, i pulled the conector apart and the mower deck stopped, I am assuming that switch is in line with the PTO but am not sure what other components are. Is there a wireing diagram somewhere? Thanks

Check the bearing and see if it's locking up on the pto.

PaulS 03-31-2012 03:17 PM

I would doubt that the bearing is the cause of your problems. That bearing usually seizes up and the pto will not shut off. The seat switch on my 2084 will shut off the pto when I lift my sorry butt off the seat. That switch may be bad.

Oak 03-31-2012 04:17 PM

If it's not electrical check the air gap as per the manual.

Charlie-141 FE 03-31-2012 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 124301)
I would doubt that the bearing is the cause of your problems. That bearing usually seizes up and the pto will not shut off. The seat switch on my 2084 will shut off the pto when I lift my sorry butt off the seat. That switch may be bad.

The seat switch has never worked, not sure if it is bypassed too, I can get off the tractor and blades have never stopped, that is why i am looking for a wiring diagram. Do you think it might be in the actual switch it's self? I'm not sure what the air gap is, will have to look that up

inspectorudy 04-01-2012 12:37 AM

As the crowd said to the man on the skyscraper, JUMP
 
I know there are a lot of friendly people on this site who will help us all if we need it but I am lazy and I like to give people my lazy man's way of doing things. Anytime I have an electrical device that goes through many safety circuits and relays I say jump it. you can rig up a wire that will fit the PTO connector up in the front and either wire it directly to the battery or put a simple on off switch in line with it and try to see if it will run continuously rigged like that. If it won't then it is in the PTO. If it will then it is in the circuit. It is that simple. Now when you get into the new and modern "Things" where there are tiny circuit boards and diodes and safety computers then being lazy gets hard. The bottom line is that if it runs off of 12 volts and you hook up 12 volts to it and it doesn't run then you know where to start. BTW, the gap is nothing more than a gap between the outer rotating surface and the inner surface. If you take the belt off and can rotate the PTO pulley freely then it is probably ok. If it is so far out that it rotates freely and does not work then it is too far out. I just tightened mine up until it didn't turn freely and then backed it off a little bit at a time until I could spin it freely. Bingo. It's perfect. Good hunting!:beerchug:

Charlie-141 FE 04-01-2012 08:28 AM

That's great advice, thanks. I will try it hooked up directly to the battery with a switch

Carl_NH 04-02-2012 10:41 AM

My 1811 did a similar thing - early last year I had to jump the tractor to start it and the PTO would engage then drop out.

Come to find out the battery had some dead cells so wasnt taking a charge and the amp draw with the PTO was too much and it would drop out. Replaced the battery and all was fine.

I did check the clearance in this process and adjusted slightly but the weak battery was the culprit.

Charlie-141 FE 04-02-2012 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Carl_NH (Post 124603)
My 1811 did a similar thing - early last year I had to jump the tractor to start it and the PTO would engage then drop out.

Come to find out the battery had some dead cells so wasnt taking a charge and the amp draw with the PTO was too much and it would drop out. Replaced the battery and all was fine.

I did check the clearance in this process and adjusted slightly but the weak battery was the culprit.

You may be right, I forgot that the same thing happened to my Dad's 1811, but his voltage regulator went bad and was not charging the battery. He would always jump start it with a battery pack and if you mowed for a long time the blades would stop. :bigthink: Thanks for the info

Leadslingingdaddy 04-03-2012 12:18 PM

Yep same here with my tiller....Bought a new battery and it never did it again....Was worried I burnt the PTO with heavy tiller duty....


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