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SwampRatt-1977 11-17-2011 10:36 PM

quick question.
 
other than being ported, wet/dry brake and lines routed differently, is there a difference between a 127 pump and a 1650. how many different variations of their pump did IH make?
Thanks
-Randy

R Bedell 11-18-2011 06:35 AM

IH used three (3) different versions of the Sundstrand Hydro. There was, non-ported, ported, and the SGT ported pumps. Thus, a ported pump will work in a non-ported application. You just have to cap off, or fabricate a return loop, the lines going to and from the Hydro Spool Valve.

SwampRatt-1977 11-18-2011 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R Bedell (Post 101571)
IH used three (3) different versions of the Sundstrand Hydro. There was, non-ported, ported, and the SGT ported pumps. Thus, a ported pump will work in a non-ported application. You just have to cap off, or fabricate a return loop, the lines going to and from the Hydro Spool Valve.

Cool Thanks Roland

gcbailey 11-18-2011 08:51 AM

the auto relief valves should be a difference too.... the 1650 should have them and the 127 doesn't, unless replaced.... not necessarily related to what you're asking, but it is a nice feature to have.

SwampRatt-1977 11-18-2011 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gcbailey (Post 101585)
the auto relief valves should be a difference too.... the 1650 should have them and the 127 doesn't, unless replaced.... not necessarily related to what you're asking, but it is a nice feature to have.

yeah my 76 has auto and someone switched them out on the 79, so it would be manual.

JK777 11-26-2012 11:58 PM

Is there a advantage to the auto relief valves? my 149 has manuals but they are shot and I was thinking of putting a set from a 1811 on it if it will work.

dsmithjr 11-27-2012 12:27 AM

If I can add to your question. Can you put a ported pump from 1650 on a 105 and use the hydro spool for hydraulics? Of course there would be some fab work to get everything mounted but will the pump bolt onto the rear end?

R Bedell 11-27-2012 06:15 AM

YES...You can put a Ported Pump on the NF Cub. Whether you have the room to do all the plumbing might be a difficult task.

Matt G. 11-27-2012 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R Bedell (Post 101571)
IH used three (3) different versions of the Sundstrand Hydro. There was, non-ported, ported, and the SGT ported pumps. Thus, a ported pump will work in a non-ported application. You just have to cap off, or fabricate a return loop, the lines going to and from the Hydro Spool Valve.

If the ports are capped off the charge pump relief and implement relief valves need to be reconfigured in the reverse of the 169 hydro lift install instructions, too.


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