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bocephus1991 06-01-2011 06:06 PM

Paint
 
Has anyone ever used paint from case IH,or TC or Orschlelns?How was the quality of it?:bigthink:

IROCKWITHDIRT 06-04-2011 11:01 AM

I've used the factory IH paint, and also tried implement paint from the local "Rural King" store.

If color being dead nutz on is an issue ie. show restoration I'd go with the factory paint. Otherwise for a fraction of the price implement paint is a close match ( a little glossier ) and tuff stuff to boot.

My 129 is a tool to be used. I think the implement pant has held up better than the IH stuff on my rig. Just an opinion. Good Luck!

westofb 06-05-2011 11:11 PM

The vansickle paint they sell at orchelns is pretty good stuff. I used laquer thinner to thin it with and be sure to use the hardner they have for it, it makes it gloss up much better and adds to the duralbility of the paint. I apply it with a gravity feed paint gun attached to the air compressor. The key is to apply it in many (3-5) thin coats waiting about 15-20 minutes between coats. If you apply it too heavily, it will let you know by running badly. See my build thread "149 Resto-mod", it shows my wheels painted with the vansickle IH white, if I was on the other puter I would have posted them here, anyhow, it gives you an idea how the paint looks after being applied. The wheels there were sand blasted, then shot with the IH off white, no primer used, the vansickle paint has rust preventer in it, so I did not think the use of primer was necessary.

Matt G. 06-06-2011 08:50 AM

Rust prevention additives don't take the place of primer...primer doesn't prevent rust; if you left a part in bare primer, it'll rust eventually. The primer helps the paint bond to the surface of the metal better.

gcbailey 06-06-2011 08:57 AM

To my knowledge about the only thing to help prevent rust is keeping a good coat of wax on something (cosmetically). The wax is what helps form a protective covering over the paint to help prevent rust.

marshallj25 06-06-2011 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by IROCKWITHDIRT (Post 76852)
I've used the factory IH paint, and also tried implement paint from the local "Rural King" store.

If color being dead nutz on is an issue ie. show restoration I'd go with the factory paint. Otherwise for a fraction of the price implement paint is a close match ( a little glossier ) and tuff stuff to boot.

My 129 is a tool to be used. I think the implement pant has held up better than the IH stuff on my rig. Just an opinion. Good Luck!

How do these paints compare to an automotive paint such as PPG Omni? It's a newer formulation, but is it as durable?

Matt G. 06-06-2011 06:53 PM

The PPG paint will likely be better than the factory paint. The tractor I painted with it, I didn't keep, but the paint dried MUCH faster than any other farm implement-type paint I had used in the past. You can't go wrong with auto paint.

westofb 06-07-2011 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt G. (Post 77081)
Rust prevention additives don't take the place of primer...primer doesn't prevent rust; if you left a part in bare primer, it'll rust eventually. The primer helps the paint bond to the surface of the metal better.

True, but I have shot vansickle paint many times over freshly sandblasted metal, I have never used primer, and never had issues with adhesion of the paint. Had I only sanded the wheel and had places where the old paint remained, I would have primed them. Not only does it help with adhesion, it provides a uniform base coat for the paint you are applying.

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Originally Posted by Matt G. (Post 77153)
The PPG paint will likely be better than the factory paint. The tractor I painted with it, I didn't keep, but the paint dried MUCH faster than any other farm implement-type paint I had used in the past. You can't go wrong with auto paint.

There is no comparison between automotive paint and tractor/ implement paints, as far as quality of the finished product goes. I prefer Dupont, but to each his own, I plan on using base coat/ clear coat system on the tractor itself. The vansickle with the hardner dries good enough overnight, that you can reassemble parts, or even wet sand it and recoat it if needed. I am not sure how long it takes to fully cure, probably somewhere around a month, similar to automotive enamal paints. The best thing about the vanickle paint is cost, it costs a fraction of what automotive paint costs!

bocephus1991 06-09-2011 06:24 PM

Thanks for all the help guys,I really appreciate it! I will do some more checking.I will prob go with caseIH paint or vansickle.Gonna test out my painting skills on an old GE refrigerator. I sanded it all down with 220 and a orbit sander then with 400 by hand primed the front where the doors seal with rattle can painters touch primer and rattle canned the front with IH red , came out pretty good! is smooth as glass!


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