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cooperino 04-05-2019 11:48 AM

Actually, The jury selection is not what your describing. Both sides, plaintiff side "the state" and defendant sides have equal share in jury selection. Here is some about it I copied from Wikipedia. Just easier than typing it out..

1.Jury selection is the selection of the people who will serve on a jury during a jury trial. The group of potential jurors (the "jury pool", also known as the venire) is first selected from among the community using a reasonably random method. ... The prospective jurors are randomly selected to sit in the jury box.

2.Most lawyers will tell you that the way they pick a jury does not win cases, but it can certainly lose cases if not done correctly. Each lawyer may have a unique style in choosing the best jurors to hear and decide the case. ... Depending on the court, they usually bring in about 50 potential jurors.

3.Jury Selection Process. After you are situated in the courtroom, the judge and lawyers will come in for the voir dire, or jury selection, part of the trial. ... The lawyer for the plaintiff will speak with the jury panel first, then the lawyer for the defendant will speak to the jury duty panel


4.Peremptory Challenges
No reason is required for a lawyer to use a peremptory challenge to excuse a potential juror. Such challenges allow each side to dismiss jurors who are otherwise qualified, but appear likely to favor the opposing party. However, peremptory challenges cannot be used to exclude jurors on the basis of race or class. Lawyers only have a specified number of peremptory challenges available—that number varies from state to state and depending on the nature of the case (a misdemeanor, felony, or death penalty trial).

So you see, Neither side really chooses from the pool. They can however excuse potential jurors. The pool is created randomly.

I think in time if you continue to follow the hearing you will see its probably more fair than you think to both sides. As for the defendant. Again, No matter what he did he is of course innocent until proven guilty. From what I have seen I do hope that he is found guilty. However, I was not there so I am sure there is way more about this case that I do not know than what I do know.

Ozcubowner 04-05-2019 06:06 PM

Thanks Cooperino , but what was reported is the Jury pool / Venire had to complete this 18 page questionnaire before anything else took place
Apparently the questionnaire related to opinions on Police , Coloured people , Sudanese etc , for me this is putting up people who have a very similar outlook / stereotype and in this case I would suspect that pool may lean toward the defendant
A bit like picking a Jury off this forum to sit in Judgement of a Husqvarna owner , we all might be a bit biased
Trust the legal system in Minnesota works on the facts and no outside influences
Oz

cooperino 04-06-2019 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Ozcubowner (Post 480458)
Thanks Cooperino , but what was reported is the Jury pool / Venire had to complete this 18 page questionnaire before anything else took place
Apparently the questionnaire related to opinions on Police , Coloured people , Sudanese etc , for me this is putting up people who have a very similar outlook / stereotype and in this case I would suspect that pool may lean toward the defendant
A bit like picking a Jury off this forum to sit in Judgement of a Husqvarna owner , we all might be a bit biased
Trust the legal system in Minnesota works on the facts and no outside influences
Oz

I understand where your coming from. I have myself have served jury duty and filled out a similar size questionnaire. It mostly contains questions that try to identify bias. I think the process is important. For example. Lets say the victim is of a race or nationality that may have in past history or still is a victim of bias. You would not want someone on the jury that believes in bias against that person for color, ethnicity, or religious beliefs right? So the questionnaire is designed to remove jurors "that respond honestly" about having bias beliefs against either the victim or the defendant.

The key word here is honestly. Keep in mind. The people being questioned do not know any details of the case prior to filling out the questionnaire.

Lets say one of the questions is.

Do police make you feel safe? Maybe my answer is, NO
Or rate 1-10 how much you like police My answer maybe.. 1


This person is not a good juror either. You can't have a juror sitting on the stand who is bias against police either.

That's all the questionnaire is really about. Finding a good balance of jurors.

Ozcubowner 04-07-2019 02:35 AM

Thanks for your info but I still think this weeding out process can have a tendency to stereotype the jurors
Here we do ask a few questions of prospective jurors but not 18 pages
Anyway its has been great to get your opinion , lets just hope this Minnesota policeman does not own a Husqvarna
Oz

cooperino 04-07-2019 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Ozcubowner (Post 480532)
Anyway its has been great to get your opinion , lets just hope this Minnesota policeman does not own a Husqvarna
Oz

I own a couple Husqvarnas! :BB&YS:
Lmao! :biggrin2:
:beerchug:

Ozcubowner 04-07-2019 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by cooperino (Post 480536)
I own a couple Husqvarnas! :BB&YS:
Lmao! :biggrin2:
:beerchug:

I have to admit I own one also , 350 chainsaw
Oz

ol'George 04-07-2019 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Ozcubowner (Post 480560)
I have to admit I own one also , 350 chainsaw
Oz

Rode a husky 450 desert master a few times back in the early 70's
Spiffy little scooter as I remember, but lacked the suspension we have now a days.:bigthink:

Ozcubowner 04-08-2019 11:59 PM

Hopefully this link works
https://www.9news.com.au/world/justi...b-f19412a5e50b

Jeff in Pa 04-30-2019 07:59 PM

Found guilty of 3rd murder

https://www.twincities.com/2019/04/3...nneapolis-cop/

Ozcubowner 05-01-2019 01:06 AM

Yes and that was based on evidence that was admissible , there was a lot more we were told about but was suppressed in the USA
He has a reputation for being very gung-ho when it comes to weapons , I shall not say more at this stage as someone will pop up and accuse me of perverting the course of justice
Oz


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