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IHCubCadet147 04-15-2018 05:02 PM

Cub Cadet Loader Questions
 
I want a cub with a loader. Probably not soon, but I just want you get some ideas.

1. Can a loader be run off the transmission without an extra hydraulic pump?
2. Are there any loaders that attach to any tractors without much modifications?
3. Would it be difficult for someone who knows almost nothing about hydraulics to make one work?
4. Would it be better/cheaper to buy a tractor and loader and put it together myself, or get a tractor with a loader already on it? I know the price depends on a lot of things, but I'm just trying to get an idea.

J-Mech 04-15-2018 05:39 PM

I understand wanting to know about things...... but if you aren't actively looking.....

My first question is why do you "need" a loader? What are you going to do with it? How are you, at 16, going to pay for a loader? Who is going to help you mount it? Are you capable of fabrication? Do you own a welder? Drill press? Have fabrication skills?

Nothing great about a GT with a loader. SGT with a loader is "better". I for one am not a fan of a loader on that small of a tractor. Just not big enough to be really "useful". My dad has a little JD 1050 SCUT. Has a loader for it and it's not really all that impressive. And it's bigger than a SGT.....

IHCubCadet147 04-15-2018 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 451092)
I understand wanting to know about things...... but if you aren't actively looking.....

My first question is why do you "need" a loader? What are you going to do with it? How are you, at 16, going to pay for a loader? Who is going to help you mount it? Are you capable of fabrication? Do you own a welder? Drill press? Have fabrication skills?

Nothing great about a GT with a loader. SGT with a loader is "better". I for one am not a fan of a loader on that small of a tractor. Just not big enough to be really "useful". My dad has a little JD 1050 SCUT. Has a loader for it and it's not really all that impressive. And it's bigger than a SGT.....

I don't "need" one, but it would be nice to have. I don't know yet how I will pay, I'm just trying to get ideas. About how much should I expect to pay for something like this? My dad could weld pretty good and help mount it. I understand it is not going to do what a larger tractor will do. I just want it for light work around the yard and driveway.

zippy1 04-15-2018 11:18 PM

Hey, I get it. I was your age one time, believe it or not.:biggrin2:
I wanted a lot of "cool" things as it seems you do. But at 16, working, making money to pay to keep a car licensed, insured, and gas in it, was my priorities. :biggrin2:
And if you have the urge for a FEL, then you will have a lot of work to do, to pay for one, because a good one nowadays don't come cheap, and if you find one "cheap" it'll prolly need money, and knowhow to make it worth your while. Dreaming is good at your age. But just poke around the forum to get on idea, of what's all involved...

R Bedell 04-16-2018 12:28 AM

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My first question is why do you "need" a loader? What are you going to do with it? How are you, at 16, going to pay for a loader?

Well, Jonathon, that is none of your damn business.

:angry::BangPC::bash2:

J-Mech 04-16-2018 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by R Bedell (Post 451135)
Well, Jonathon, that is none of your damn business.

:angry::BangPC::bash2:

Boy, it's a good thing we cleared that up. :RollEyes2:

By the way. I have my name spelled out in my sigature. When are you going to spell it right??

sawdustdad 04-16-2018 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by IHCubCadet147 (Post 451087)
I want a cub with a loader. Probably not soon, but I just want you get some ideas.

1. Can a loader be run off the transmission without an extra hydraulic pump?
2. Are there any loaders that attach to any tractors without much modifications?
3. Would it be difficult for someone who knows almost nothing about hydraulics to make one work?
4. Would it be better/cheaper to buy a tractor and loader and put it together myself, or get a tractor with a loader already on it? I know the price depends on a lot of things, but I'm just trying to get an idea.

Leaving all the other chatter behind,

I think you'll need a separate hydraulic pump. The charge pump on the hydrostat will make for a very sluggish loader.

Most will require some mods, but I think you can find someone to help you make them if you really want to do that. Don't let that discourage you.

Everybody has a first time working with hydraulics. You can learn. A loader project would teach you a lot.

Finally, it would certainly be simpler to find a tractor/loader already complete. But you would not learn as much and it would cost more. On the other hand, if you have no help to install one you might struggle. You'd learn a lot, but it might get frustrating, so it depends on your dedication. If you REALLY want one, then installing one you buy could be a great learning experience.

I have a loader on a kubota SCUT and it's very handy. But it's kinda a different animal than you are considering. Loaders for Cub Cadets are kinda collector items so they are expensive. If you want a CC with a loader it may cost more than another brand SCUT with a loader. And, due to size, less capable. But perhaps more fun!!

Good luck in your search!

R Bedell 04-16-2018 06:01 AM

Sawdust & Zippy1:

Thanks for taking the time to address this young man's questions.

:IH Trusted Hand:

Alvy 04-16-2018 06:38 AM

Something to consider. Mr. Plans has done the homework for us.

https://www.cadplans.com

Jumper 04-16-2018 10:27 AM

If you can find a loader you can afford in good condition, grab it! Your 147 is a good machine for a loader, but if it's your go to machine for mowing and tilling, you would be better off using another machine to permanently mount the loader (a wide frame with 12hp or higher in IMHO). By the time you dial your machine in with fluid filed ag tires, wheel weights, a weight box and sometimes chains (I also had to extend my wheels out a couple of inches on each side to clear the push arms for my particular loader), makes it a pain switching back and forth. I totally agree with Sawdustdad for the hydraulics set up if at all possible, also because if by chance you want to put the loader on a gear drive, your ready to go with a self contained hyd. system. Of all my cub attachments, the loader has been by far my favorite.


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