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149 key switch problems.

149 key switch problems. Does anyone have experience with changing to push button start switch?
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YES.....but why would you want to go back to that type of system..???

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It’s my mother’s tractor and she has trouble putting the key in and often leaves it in the on position and drains the battery. She loves cutting with the mower and I would help her keep going.
Thanks Chris

Would the wiring diagram from the O work? It shows the push button.

http://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/showthread.php?t=35

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Originally Posted by Wild Bill (Post 65945)

The electric start Original, also had a key. The key turns on the ignition circuit.

The push button engages the starter/generator....just like turning the 149's key to 'start'.

If you forget to turn the key off on an Original, you drain the battery, just the same as you would on a 149.

They could put a push pull or toggle switch in place of the key .

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Originally Posted by christopher peregoy (Post 65942)

No matter what system you have the push button or the key start, you will have to turn it on and off to energize the ignition, with the push button that would be a separate toggle switch. If she forgots to turn it off, does she park it and let it run until it dies (out of gas)! Your mother ought to be old enough by now to learn to turn things off when she is done with them!

Thanks I will put in a toggle before switch, she is also old enough to forget to turn things off . Thanks chris

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Originally Posted by christopher peregoy (Post 66015)

Thanks I will put in a toggle before switch, she is also old enough to forget to turn things off . Thanks chris

Okay...lol

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Originally Posted by christopher peregoy (Post 66015)

Thanks I will put in a toggle before switch, she is also old enough to forget to turn things off . Thanks chris

Just a thought,
Possibly put a string on the key and have her put it around her wrist or neck like a necklace then she will not forget to turn it off.

Might be looking at this in a slightly different way, but how about an LED or any 12v indicator light? Would at least be a reminder the ignition switch is still turned on, and be a fairly easy task to accomplish.

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Originally Posted by Wild Bill (Post 66039)

True, but what is the difference between a key vs a push pull/toggle? It's still another action that has to happen, to turn something off.

The 149's operation is simplified by using a automotive style 3 position key switch. Off-Run-Start....you simply turn the key. The Original has a 2 position key switch Off-On, and an additional push button that is essentially 'Start'.....this adds 'things that need to happen' to start the tractor as compared to the 149's 3 position switch. A Farmall H has a push-pull switch for the ignition, and a push button starter. If you choke the tractor until it dies, or run out of gas, and don't push the ignition switch in, it will kill the battery.

Plus, on an Original, if you have the transmission in gear, and you push the starter button (even without the key on), the tractor will move! It won't fire, but the turning of the S/G through the driveline will move the tractor forward or backward depending on the gear it's in.

I don't know if the S/G on a hydro tractor would turn fast enough to move the tractor at all if the speed control in up or down....but it could be an accident waiting to happen.

I know all this Bill,but the gentlemen mentioned having problems with putting the key in the ignition and wanted info about putting a push button in place. I was just offering my two cents.

and as far as the O moving when you push the button what are you gonna do recall them or just be careful they are what they are right.

:Thanks:thanks for your imput ..i did not mean sound cocky and your point is well taken.what i need is some magical 3 position push switch.the best fix might be led light too indicat that the power is still on and to wirein a seat switch so the shuts off if she gets off...thanks for all your help chris

might want to try an atv/ racing kill switch. I have seen them , used them, but never wired one in. Its a switch mounted on the handlebars, with a plastic clip which has to be in place on the switch. The clip is attached to the operator, with a lanyard. if operator leaves machine for any reason, ignition is killed. You
could wire it through another solenoid which connects power between battery and tractor. Never have that problem again. Plus, if she falls off for any reason, tractor would stop automatically, and she wouldnt be physically tied to it as was suggested earlier.

Id rather cut the grass for her. :biggrin2::biggrin2:

thanks.. i will look into the kill swich