127 dissappointment
 

Well my 127 that I just got a few short weeks ago has just pulled a fast one on me. It all started last weekend when the PTO wouldn't shut off. I found a worn out, actually a almost non existent "button" on the end of the arm that engages/disengages the clutch. I had a friend of mine examine it and upon closer examination, the key way on the crankshaft is so worn out that the starter pulley was rattling as well as the clutch for the PTO. Turns out that the PTO as of now is useless. I think that I am down to 3 courses of action:

1. sell it as a parts tractor :Sad:

2. replace the crankshaft :Price:

3. replace the engine :Price:

At least I have the QA-42A snow thrower that works.:crap:

I would think you'd be able to get a crank for less than $50. Probably a lot less. An entire motor will run you anywhere from $50-$300ish depending on your luck and location.

papaglide,
I agree with Matt. I have a K301 crankshaft that needs to be turned .010 under so you probably wouldn't want it. But hang in there. If you don't have to get it running right away take some time put in the crankshaft and look around while you are in there. You could wind up with a very good engine that will have lots of power and a long life ahead of it's self. If you got to have it for mowing. Do the above and call in some favors or a neighbor to get it cut. You will not regret working on that Cub.

Thanks guys. It's my back up. Would a rebuilt engine be a simple drop in?

If it's meant for a Cub Cadet of that vintage, then yes.

an idea?
 

Probably will get a lot of grief for this, but, not knowing how bad your crank keyway is munged up, I have one Cub that was wallowed out pretty bad..same thing, pulleys loose, PTO banging around in there.bought some larger size keyway stock and spent some time on the crank making it presentable and made a custom keyway..still working 4/5 years later..it's an alternative to major bucks or work??..just an idea???:American Flag 1::IH Trusted Hand:

My other option. would it be OK to use the 127 (worth $200 per the dealer for parts) and my old 1018(worth $800 per the dealer) as trade ins for an 1862 that's in good shape?

I would NOT do it. You would be trading away a GREAT GARDEN tractor for a grass cutter that was not made by IH. But that is my very bias opinion. I would sell the 1018 and use that money to redo your 127.

The 1862 is much more than a "grass cutter"...it's also a garden tractor that's capable of everything the 127 is. I'm not a big fan of the plastic junk on that series, but other than that they're alright. I see you have one in your avatar, so you're probably used to those. It really wouldn't be all that difficult to fix the 127.

i'd get rid of the 1018 and use the money for the 127 overhaul and you'll get many years out of it since it looks like you have a cyclops in your picture

Matt G,
Will his QA snow thrower attach to it?

That's not too bad. I tried to find the info before posting.

Find another crank.

Scott

Thanks so much for the ideas everyone. Getting to the QA-42A, it would need the drive pulley changed and a new lift rod to fit my 1882?
Also I can sell the 1018 for $800 firm. Would that be more than enough needed to rebuild the 127 motor and deck?
My avatar shows the 127 and behind it, the "cyclops" 1882, which IMO is a freakin cool tractor.:beerchug:

papaglide-

The QA-42A will work on an 1862 with a pulley and lift rod change. You might also have to change the upper parallel links if it doesn't have the curved ones. HOWEVER, it will not fit an 1882 or any super, for that matter. You'd need an H48, 450, etc. for your 1882. You should be able to rebuild the mower and engine for the 127 for $800 if you take your time looking for parts and stuff.

I would bet that you can pull that crank, take it to your local machine shop and have them fix it for about Thirty Bucks. If your motor doesn't have any other problems, I don't really see any need in fixing anything else.

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i have a good running kohler k301 id sell for roud a hundred or so if u need it

Please use a PM or e-mail the offers to sell engines and or parts......Do not use the discussion forums for Buying/Selling. Thank You

Matt, thanks a bunch for clarifying the QA-42A for me. The PO of the 127 thought that the 127 was a little under powered for the snow thrower when he used it. The 1862 would probably handle it with ease though.
Everyone, thank you all for the input. Monday, I am taking a ride to check on a crank and used PTO, clutch etc. Also will sell the 1018. Depending on my findings I think that I may swing towards the 1862. I will post what happens.
Once again I thank you all for the opinions and ideas. It really has been helpful.

Yes, this is another option that works. I had this done on a off topic tractor and it lasted longer then the rest of it did..

Cost me 20 bucks I think. I'm getting old and it was 20yrs ago, but I do know it was cheap..

A 127 *should* handle a thrower with no issues, but you are correct, the 1862 would do better. Make sure that the bearings turn easily and everything is greased regularly, as in before every use. You should also paint the inside of the chute with graphite paint. I have a QA-36A that I first had on a 1450, and the 14 handled it fine. I put it on a 1512 diesel, which was the best thing ever for throwing snow. There was nothing it couldn't do; it was limited only by the life of the belt. I then put it on a 782 last winter with the same M18 engine that the 1862 has (the motor in it is actually out of an 1862) and that worked great as well. Despite that, I have nearly stalled the motor a few times and destroyed 2 belts. I push it pretty hard. It'll move 10" of wet, sloppy snow.

I mounted a CW-36 thrower on my 127 but by the time I got it all mounted and ready to go we never got anymore snow to throw... :(

Yesterday I went ahead and sold my 1018 for $800, went to the dealer and bought the 1862, serviced and delivered for free at the end of the week. I got home, took the deck and muledrive off of the 127, fired it up, attached my cart and drove around for the next 2 hours picking up sticks, branches and crap out of my yard and neighboring tree patch that we own. That tractor is very cool and mean looking with a deck attached!
No luck on finding a crank for it but the starter pulley fit on the keyway fine. The crank down by where the PTO would be is worn and could have been put back on but would not have lasted too long. The way the tractor is now, it should last indefinitely provided I keep the PTO off of it. Like my neighbor told me earlier, you don't need it for cutting anymore. Make it your rider. That's exactly what I am going to do. I think that I like it more in this configuration than with the PTO and deck attached.:beerchug:

Yep!
You take a deck and mule drive off and it really looks like a tractor. I like mine best without a deck mounted up.

Congratulations on the 1862, you're going to love it!:beer2: I know I enjoy mine. I look at mine as a mini-super. It doesn't have the dual brakes or extra 6-8" of length, but other than that it's very similar. I like to use my 70 for cart duty also. It looks great without a deck on it.

I haven't got the 1862 yet but I am looking forward to it, sometimes the 1882 is just a little too big. The more I drive the 127 and just look at it I love it more and more. I will never attach a deck to it again!:beerchug:

Not exactly sure I understand what the problem is with your 127, the keyway on the end of the shaft isn't used for anything, the only part of the keyway that is used, is where the starter pulley/pto basket are mounted.

When the PTO was mounted, the keyway was worn so that when the belt was attached to the pto, the pto and starter pulley would visibly shake. I am assuming from the tension on the belt. It seems now that without the pto clutch and belt, the starter pulley doesn't vibrate or rattle or shake. Its pretty smooth. For some reason the previous owner mangled the last half inch or so of the crank and keyway. That's the best that I can explain it.:o