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Tractor2nv 03-11-2011 09:22 AM
Correct Original Hood Decals
 
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My 62 Original is next for paint. You can see the existing replacement decal that is on the hood from a early repaint. Decal is not correct.I think I know where the incorrect decals came from but not going to point fingers. I knew they were not correct when I brought the tractor home. I've had several collectors tell me that they are not correct so...it's time to make it correct!

ajgross 03-11-2011 09:51 AM
I believe that the incorrect decals are actually the factory replacements.

AJ

gcbailey 03-11-2011 10:08 AM
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Ya, I've often wondered about the font on the 'O'... I've saw several who people have sworn were original with the italicized cursive and others with the straight cursive.... Even the block letters (cub cadet) with different width fonts... I don't know enough nor was/is it my place to correct someone. Here's my hood...

juniors1282 03-11-2011 10:26 AM
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I looked into both when I did the "O". I compared mine with what was left over from the original decals. I went with what your changing it to, from Maple Hunter. I think AJ is right I have seen the one that's on your tractor that guys have gotten from a closed dealer or found them NOS. I like the smaller version personaly, and it's what you see in all the early photo's of them in production. Here is mine.

nikster 03-11-2011 11:01 AM
Why become so picky? They both look great.

Nik,

gcbailey 03-11-2011 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by nikster (Post 62214)
Why become so picky? They both look great.

Nik,

just because. :) I've still got 2 decals that I'm unsure of location for my 127... I've pretty much got OCD so there are some things that even though it looks good, will bug the crap out of me until I know it's correct. Then I can be the total opposite end of the spectrum on other things!

Anything looks better than those cubs painted green and yellow or purple, whatever!

ajgross 03-11-2011 03:15 PM
My wife has CDO. It's like OCD but in alphabetical order.

AJ

cubcadet100 03-11-2011 03:22 PM
Theres nothing wrong with being picky lol. Im actually kind of dreading getting decals and stuff for mine when i get to that point im already finding myself being picky about things that wont even be seen on my "O" I dont know how bad its going to get when i get to the stuff that will be seen on it :biggrin2:

gcbailey 03-11-2011 05:28 PM
there is something to be said for those who want things looking/working/done right vs. being all jacked up. Although sometimes all jacked up is a pretty good way to go.

Tractor2nv 03-12-2011 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by nikster (Post 62214)
Why become so picky? They both look great.

Nik,
I use to not be so picky until I got deeper into this addiction. I have several "Cubologists" "Cub Guru's" or simply put it CUBNUTZ! that visit often. A few transplants from north of the Mason/Dixon line to southern born & bred. They all have at least ONE thing in common...IH Cub Cadet. After taking in their input and history of these machines I would take it further to find out more for myself. My wife knows more than most ladies,reading from Kenneth Updike or Cadetconnection (which I'm proud of). So,back to the correct decal issue...in the Original production years IH used a rubber ink stamp not a decal and the stamp looks like the decal of choice...we know a gentleman that has one the stamps and has turned down MEGA $ for it...I did not mean to stur up a hornet's nest about the issue...I'll just blame it on the "Cubologists"--LOL!

Tractor2nv 03-12-2011 08:09 AM
Sweet!!!!
 
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Originally Posted by juniors1282 (Post 62208)
i looked into both when i did the "o". I compared mine with what was left over from the original decals. I went with what your changing it to, from maple hunter. I think aj is right i have seen the one that's on your tractor that guys have gotten from a closed dealer or found them nos. I like the smaller version personaly, and it's what you see in all the early photo's of them in production. Here is mine.
oh my!!!! Sweet,sweet,sweet!!!!

gcbailey 03-12-2011 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Wild Bill (Post 62324)
The Original's are a easy model to 'mix and match' on, especially if you are just buying Original parts. If the correct police are out, they can pick an Original apart pretty easy. Even the seat spring for an Original is different, than the seat spring from a 70, 100, 71, 72, or 73. :)
Why do you think it was like this? Lack of standards that early on? IH didn't expect to sell as many as they did? (I think I remember reading that in one of Ken Updike's books).

Tractor2nv 03-12-2011 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by gcbailey (Post 62367)
Why do you think it was like this? Lack of standards that early on? IH didn't expect to sell as many as they did? (I think I remember reading that in one of Ken Updike's books).
Kenneth's quote..." IH estimated its potential sales volume of the Original tractor to be 500 units per year. In the first year of tractor production alone,the Original sold over 23,000 units. IH sold almost 65,000 units"...(John Deere was thinking in 1961-62 "We have got to get some of this market!")

Tractor2nv 03-13-2011 12:46 AM
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Another example from a roller I have, one piece decal. Also very well said Wild Bill...

gcbailey 03-13-2011 03:55 PM
thanks for the insight.... I know IH tried to "save" money by using a lot of stuff from the Cub (I.E. rearend) to save on production costs, stampings, R/D, whatever... I just wonder if they realized how over engineered they were making their GTs.... not like that's a bad thing by any point :biggrin2:

Sminkey 03-13-2011 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Wild Bill (Post 62324)
The decal that is on the hood in your picture, are what a current Cub Cadet dealer (and quite possibly a CASE/IH dealer unless they have a NOS set on their shelf) will sell you if you ask them for 'Original' hood decals.

The decal that is still on the paper backing, is the -correct- font/original style font, that the tractor left the factory with.

Anyone who has owned an Original knows that they are pretty much a model unto themselves. There are several parts that are early 1961 specific on the tractor chassis, and at least one on the engine. The Original's are a easy model to 'mix and match' on, especially if you are just buying Original parts. If the correct police are out, they can pick an Original apart pretty easy. Even the seat spring for an Original is different, than the seat spring from a 70, 100, 71, 72, or 73. :)

Bill's right on the $$$! I consider myself one of the "correct police", I just like to see things oem when restored. Until the restoration happens anything goes for me:biggrin2: I do like the correct decal more than the replacement.

Bill, would the engine part be the s/g bracket? What about the "smooth" cooling fins?? I didn't know there was 2 different style decals for the O', thanks guys:beerchug:

darkminion_17 03-13-2011 08:32 PM
There was also a thing about the rear rims having smaller openings in them,also the rear hitch had a smaller hole in it.

Tractor2nv 03-14-2011 05:40 PM
Wow...Wild Bill your good on these Originals! When I thought I knew enough,then your knowledge input tops my Cubologists!


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